One of my favorite 60's comedies is "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying" featuring Robert as the hustling,
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thomas196x2000 — 10 years ago(April 20, 2015 04:16 PM)
I don't agree.
A definition of irony is as such:
"an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected."
from Dictionary.com
Using your example, many people correctly use the term ironic to describe Irwin's death. It's a matter of perspective. One could state:
"Don't you find it ironic that a guy who most assuredly knows the dangers of the deep gets taken out by a damn stingray?" It's ironic that, even though he appears to take chances, he knows how to deal with wild animals safely and to be take out like that is certainly not expected.
I found it unexpected, I would have thought that guy would die of old age would be a more expected outcome.
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jstatser — 10 years ago(January 24, 2016 08:49 PM)
Yup. I didn't figure it would be ironic when I saw the subject line. I wondered if it was gonna be worth it to look and say it was ironic at all. Just as I thought, "What's the use. I can't stop um from misusing word, I saw your attempt. How ironicerI mean..umuh well i mean something.
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di1an — 13 years ago(March 10, 2013 03:20 PM)
What's brilliant is that he was 30 in 1961 - the only cast member of Mad Men to have actually been around in those days, and in his prime. You have to wonder what he's thinking when on set and how accurate he really thinks it all is. Being in show-business his whole life, he's probably seen it all.
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King_Of_Fuh — 11 years ago(June 25, 2014 06:59 PM)
Morse found fame in How to Succeed about the time period of Mad Men Season 1. I don't remember if the show was mentioned in the series, but I could see Don taking one of his conquests to see it. Anyway, I myself hate irony. I just get my shirts dry-cleaned and pressed.
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thomas196x2000 — 10 years ago(April 20, 2015 04:26 PM)
I have had the same thought myself.
My guess is that he would be thinking that there is a lot of dramatic license going on. Of course, that would presume that Morse had spent some time in a contemporary office environment.
I remember going to my dad's business a ton in the 1960s, and even to some of his customers! My dad ran a very early data processing organization, selling essentially computerized accounting and POS services. What I noticed as a kid was a LOT more grey haired men in positions of power (sure, people in the 1960s looked older, but never mind). Not many 25 year olds attempting to run the company. Moving up to a manager was a big deal, moving up to a district manager or area director was a very big deal. He still has many company brochures, handouts with photos of Presi111cdent's clubs and awards events, and every photo was a man.
Women did not have many positions of power. Watching Mad Men, wow, you'd think they already had attained some equality. And while there was certainly bosses engaging in sex with underlings, my dad laughs at how it is presented. Offices, were somber, orderly businesses. I realize the ad agencies were likely way looser, but the 60s offices in general were not like this. Women in those days were secretaries and receptionists. Maybe an office manager, but her management level was not on the same as the other managers. This is the way it was, and it certainly is not exciting, but we should not lose sight of historical context, boring as it might be.
I always thought Mad Men was the 60s filtered through this decadeit will likely be an interesting curiosity if it is viewed 30 years from now.