Non and Superman - life imitating art
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Johalloran-1 — 18 years ago(June 24, 2007 11:21 PM)
Richard Donner hired and fought for Chris who was 175lb. actor who never did anything before Superman. The film made him a star, but instead of fighting and standing up for the man who gave him his chance. He took the money and let Lester come on board for Superman II and III. Superman IV wasn't even done by the Salkins because the238y knew it was going to be so bad.So who sold the fan base out then. Certainly not Donner who believed that 10 Superman films should have been done properly.And his version of II is much better than Lester's. Just imagine if he would have been able to do the film like he was supposed to it would have been superb and three and the rest would have been fantastic.
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Polaris01313-1 — 18 years ago(June 25, 2007 12:27 AM)
Well, that does shed some new(if not unpleasant)light on Chris and his involvement in the production of the first two films. In all honesty, it depicts him as either a Judas type, someone with an ego problem, or just someone who did not want to get caught in the maelstrom of studio politics.
I can't really say, since I don't know all of the circumstances.
Either way, I can definately sympathize, let alone, understand your bitterness and resentment. I would have fought 'hell and high water' to have Donner stay on as director. If I had been in Chris's place, I would have stood up for Donner, no matter what.
Which brings me to some questions that I have been formulating since our correspondence from yesterday.
Was Richard Donner aware of Chris just taking the money and letting Lester come on board? It seemed to me that he and Chris had an excellent working relationship, judging by those same interviews I had seen both of them in.
And why didn't Mr. Don111cner have Richard Lester banned from the set, like he did the Salkinds? I mean, from what I have read, Donner had the power to have the Salkinds removed. Why didn't he just wield that same authority on Lester? Let's face it, Richard Lester had no business being involved in the two productions, let alone being allowed on the set. Regardless of whether or not the Salkinds owed him a picture. Honestly, if the Salkinds hadn't screwed up the way they did with Lester, I don't think the fan base for Superman would have been betrayed.
I didn't realize that Richard Donner had wanted to work on 10 Superman films. I'm with you on Donner's involvement of the films. Judging by his excellent work on the first two movies, they would have been spectacular. -
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Johalloran-1 — 18 years ago(October 01, 2007 08:00 PM)
Donner wanted to make the best film he could and his vision involving Superman was brilliant.Producers greed is what spoiled the Superman films. How do you take Brando out of a film piss off Hackman and remove a great Director.
Superman IV was all about money with no consideration of the fan bas1c84e.How do you let a company like Cannon do a film like Superman. Please understand the reputation of Cannon spoke for itself.
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Reno-007 — 18 years ago(December 20, 2007 10:13 AM)
Again Jack, you are so refreshing about Chris and the films. You say it like it is and that is a rare thing these days. I live in San Diego CA, do you ever come down here to do work? Also I just wanted to add that when Superman II came out here in early summer of '81 I saw it with my brothers in New York because my family and I were going on the Queen Elizabeth II to Southampton UK. And the movie was being played on the ship as well! I loved the fact that since the movies on board were free I absolutely took total advantage of it. One scene that always cracks me up is when you were testing your heat ray vision and that kid is watching you! Thank you for answering fan questions,
Paul C.
What do you primitive childr1908en know what you call God?
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Reno-007 — 18 years ago(December 22, 2007 09:49 PM)
Yes sir it has!! And the weather is still great. If I could go back in time and tell myself in 81 that I'd actually be talking to you I'd fly to the moon! And you have a great holiday too Mr. Halloran!
What do you primitive children know what you call God?
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DrMirakle32 — 17 years ago(March 09, 2009 03:54 PM)
It really is a shame to hear how Chris Reeve treated some people in real life. I once asked an actor and proffesional trainer (who shall remain nameless) about working with Reeve, and I kid you not, he called him a "sack of beep
He more or less said that Reeve was cool the first few weeks of working, but once he put on the suit, he became extremely arrogant. As a huge Superman fan who always heard great things about Reeve, I was kind of turned off when I heard how he acted on set. He was only human, and God knows I still admire his portrayal of Superman, and the way the pulled through after the accident. -
Polaris01313-1 — 17 years ago(March 10, 2009 12:15 PM)
I've heard so many stories and conflicting information about Chris, that it is hard to sift through the facts, and determine which is factual and which is not.
We may never know the full story. All I can say is this: like all people, Chris obviously got along with some people and some he did not.
Despite that, we shouldn't let that tarnish or ruin our image of Christopher Reeve.
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BenGrimms_Thing — 17 years ago(March 23, 2009 02:32 PM)
I just wanted to commend you on having the decency to speak your feelings on a subject that many probably lambaste you for. I love the first 3 Superman films (the third just for the Kent vs. Superman fight and Annette O'Toole's Lana Lang.) I loved Non as a child also. I have always felt it ridiculous that people are expected to lie about their feelings toward someone just because they're dead. Again I commend you for being real yet as respectful as possible. Lastly, thanks for Emil Muzz in Dragnet.
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Johalloran-1 — 17 years ago(March 24, 2009 08:26 AM)
What is so hard to believe, when someone is truthful about something. Does everyone in life have outstanding relationships with everyone they meeet or work with. Life is what it is why can't people just leave it alone.
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Polaris01313-1 — 17 years ago(March 29, 2009 02:50 PM)
Maybe it's because some people are shocked that Christopher Reeve was rude to some people. They never imagined that he was like. Sometimes when a person has this image that many are used to, and they reveal a side to them that many never imagined possible, it can be quite surprising to that many people.
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Johalloran-1 — 16 years ago(April 13, 2009 09:26 AM)
That is why somethings should just be left alone. Instead of beating something to death. It is what it is and leave it to that, no one is purposely out to hurt anyone.I don't know of anyone who has a perfect day everyday.
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Jack O'Halloran