Rehearsal is for homosexuals?
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sammy_mendel — 14 years ago(November 10, 2011 02:29 AM)
Congratulations, by agreeing with me you made me you made me want to change my argument. So homosexuals "run" things? What, just like the Jews, right? Steven Blairson runs fox, Barry Meyer runs warner bros, Steven blairson runs fox and Robert iger runs Disney, so the three most powerful men in Hollywood aren't gay or Jewish but straight white men like yourself who've never known persecution. Fag isn't a matter of free speech but context: and I seriously doubt incidents like these will cause those seriously concerned about free speech to start calling gay people names.
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AmericanGayAtheist — 14 years ago(November 09, 2011 10:53 PM)
F_G IS EVERY BIT AS OFFENSIVE AS NIGER!
And your desription of some people being gay and others beibg f-gs is an argument bigot have used around the word nger.
Its a bigoted statment and definitely v2000ery homophobic. You need help
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DreTam2000 — 14 years ago(November 10, 2011 12:40 AM)
I disagree completely. The word "fag" can take on its own meaning just as much as the N-word has.
I use the word "fag" and don't plan on ever discontinuing it. And I'm never referring to a homosexual whenever I use the word. So it can't be offensive unless a person is reaching.
I am Black, and I will fully concede to allowing folks' use of the N-word if it means I can go on using the "fag" word. I don't like the idea that I can't say whatever I want to say, especially when there's no negative intent.
The same way Asians, Hispanics, and Whites use "n!gga" to refer to eachother these days, so shall I continue to use the word "fag" loosely.
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sammy_mendel — 14 years ago(November 10, 2011 01:51 AM)
I don't agree. The n word will never become acceptable due to its history of violence and tragedy. A few people started using it after black people started using it to dis-empower the word, but that is a flash in the pan. I wouldn't let anyone say it around me: it's more like "f*ggot".
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AmericanGayAtheist — 14 years ago(November 12, 2011 05:41 PM)
I think what Eddie Murphy did was hysterical. Of all the hypocrits. Murphy was a well know fixture at the cruise areas for transsexuals and cross-dressers in New
York city when he lived there. No one in the New York community was very surprised when he was caught with that cross-dresser in Hollywood. Giving her a ride indeed! Is that what their caling it these day???
Brett Ratner should have known better, and Murphy has no credibility in this situation!
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sammy_mendel — 14 years ago(November 10, 2011 02:14 AM)
I don't really see why I need help.
Given the histories of the words, I don't think it's accurate to compare them, but the n word is more like fggot. Fag is a neutered form of the latter, and I've heard it used lightly by homosexuals as well as others: it's more like "that's so gay", where gay has been decontextualised.
I don't use the word fag but I do use pansy. I have a northern father and it's indelibly part of their lexicon. I truly think that, just like "that film was gay" they have become disconnected from their origins. To return to your n word analogy, I don't really think one could say, "I know some black people, I know some n******, but I don't know any black n*******" as I did above.
I don't think a word is bigoted unless it refers derogatively to its origins. The word "btch" is derogatory if used against women, but not if one says my life is a b***: the same applies to "my life is gay". Stop assuming I'm some sort of bigot and listen more carefully to what I'm saying. The damage of words depends on their context. It doesn't mean there should be blanket bans unless like the word "k*ke" there is no context in which they are not offensive (note, by the way, that IMDb allows the word fag). -
Nutballcheesecake — 14 years ago(November 10, 2011 01:29 AM)
Whether black or white it is wrong to use the N word. I can't even Imagine how bad it must of felt back when Black people had so fewer freedoms and being called the N word, it must of felt awful. If your ancestors lived in America during slavery, for their sake and memory, you should stop using that word.
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sammy_mendel — 14 years ago(November 10, 2011 02:41 AM)
I was just showing how previously offensive words take on their own entity following widespread use. Moron or retard, for instance. They were once used to denote stages of mental disability and closely tied to the eugenics movement. However they became more universal and now you can say moron without losing your career, just as fag is taking on a new meaning despite the unpleasant origins of both words. The English language is full of words that have become less controversial as the original meaning is lost.