It works everytime. This is pathetic and degrading.
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mickfoley123 — 14 years ago(February 27, 2012 07:12 AM)
Her character was far from subservient. Ugh Watch the movie!
I don't need to. She played a black maid with poor English in the early 1960s in the deep South. If she went any lower she would have been a full out slave. -
mickfoley123 — 14 years ago(February 27, 2012 07:07 AM)
if she hadn't won you'd probably be COMPLAINING that she didn't win cause she is black.
Wrong. I would have been happy if she didn't win. Why would I be happy with a black woman winning an Oscar for playing a maid? -
mickfoley123 — 14 years ago(February 27, 2012 07:41 AM)
To bad cause Octavia seemed really happy. It was already pointed out that not all black oscar winners have played maids but of course complaining just makes us feel better.
Earlier I clarified my point and said negative stereotypes or subservient roles.
Oscars
Denzel Washington - Training Day
Halle Berry - Monster's Ball
Hattie McDaniel - Gone With the Wind
Whoopi Goldberg - Ghost = played a con-artist and the "magical Negro"
Monique - Precious
Golden Globes
Whoopi Goldberg - The Color Purple, Ghost
Morgan Freeman - Driving Miss Daisy
Monique - Precious
Octavia Spencer - The Help
Movies that received a lot of praise in recent years
The Help
Precious
The Blind Side
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Smackdown735 — 14 years ago(February 27, 2012 07:10 PM)
mickfoley,
I understand what you're saying but trying to explain it to some of these people is like trying to teach algebra to a hamster.
THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND
You'll be met with the same tired, regurgitated canned responses:
"Stop playing the race card"
"Stop whining about race"
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moviegeek1 — 13 years ago(May 25, 2012 08:43 AM)
Right, because only black people win for playing "negative" roles.
Elizabeth Taylor -
Butterfield 8- Prostitute
Shirley Jones -
Elmer Gantry - Prostitute
Charlize Theron -
Monster - Prostitute/Serial Killer
Anthony Hopkins -
The Silence Of The Lambs - Serial Killer
Jane Fonda -
Klute - Prostitute
Kim Basinger -
L.A. Confidential - High-class prostitute
Mira Sorvino -
Mighty Aphrodite - Prostitute
Julia Roberts -
Erin Brokovich - Trash-talking, "sassy" single mother.
Kevin Spacey -
The Usual Suspects - Devious criminal
Kathy Bates -
Misery - Psychotic, obsessed fan
Christolph Waltz -
Inglorius Basterds - Nazi
Heath Ledger -
The Dark Knight - The Joker
And the list goes on and on. I guess in your mind, the only people who are allowed to play villians or less-than-desirables are white actors. I guess you'd prefer that black actors only play heroes. Then there's the list of white actors who won for playing drunks or drug addicts.
And 5b4people have the nerve to criticize Ms. Spencer for playing a maid.
Sister, when I've raised hell, you'll know it!
- Prostitute
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missgangsmashers — 14 years ago(February 27, 2012 09:21 AM)
It is definitely a pattern and anyone who has followed Blacks in Hollywood know this!
Why did Denzel HAVE to win for Training Daywhy couldn't he win for Malcolm X?
It is strategic and designed this way!
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moon_river96 — 14 years ago(February 27, 2012 12:59 PM)
As a black person it always sickens me when fellow black people cheapens the wins of black actors. Acting like the only reason why they won the Oscar is because they play a stereotypical role. Octavia won because she deserved it not because she played a maid. It's not easy for an black actor to be recognize for an Oscar let alone win. And to hear your own people saying the only reason you won because you played a maid,angry cop,bad mother,or had sex with Billy Bob Thorton makes you feel like as if they don't think your performance was worthy for an Oscar.
Octavia and Viola brought something different to the usually maid role they add truth to it. They made the character seemed real. It wasn't the usual uneducated obey the master kind the role. They brought life to the role. We have to remember the past in order to know are future. It is important that we have movies like The Help how far we come.
Congrats to Oscar winner Octavia Spencer and 2 Oscar time nominee Viola Davis!
I'm not funny. What I am is brave.Lucille Ball
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mickfoley123 — 14 years ago(February 27, 2012 04:14 PM)
Acting like the only reason why they won the Oscar is because they play a stereotypical role. Octavia won because she deserved it not because she played a maid.
Yes she won because she played a maid.
Octavia and Viola brought something different to the usually maid role they add truth to it.
It's still a maid role. We don't need movies like The Help to remind us how bad things used to be.
