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otterbaby — 20 years ago(November 03, 2005 07:15 PM)
Quincy:
You said:
""Freemason," a society of millions of men only (pro-life and devoutly for children) which many people in the Christian churches claim is a cult that practices forms of Wicca."
"When you become a Mason, let's just say you pledge your life to the fraternity eternally, via making a vow to Lucifer and the teachings of the illuminati. It's a vow that keeps you silent and in the fraternity. Leaving the Masonic fraternity, according to the illuminati, means death by beheading if a brother Mason found out."
I would just like to say that the "Masons" are a group of Christian (usually Protestant! Atleast that's what they are where I come from (the Mid-West). The Masons are a group of men who are good towards others and respected Christians in the community! Masons are suppossed to help eachother out my Great-Grandfather was a Mason and his life was saved by a fellow Mason.
The Masons do is not a Wiccan cult and the many Christian/Protestant preachers are Masons! I just wanted to say in the Mason's defense they are not evil cult members but, good, outstanding, Christian, citizens.
I do not know what goes on at their meetings and do not wish to know since it is a "secret" but, if I was guessing it's probably just a bunch of "man talk" and card games, lol. Seriously, though Masons are good CHRISTIAN men!
Natalie
"Parfaits just might be the best damn thing on Earth!" Donkey from shrek -
quincy_gaines — 20 years ago(January 01, 2006 12:15 AM)
Hi Natalie,
Sorry it took me so long to get your message. I'm glad you replied. In reply to your message, I apollogize for coming off as strong as I did about the freemasons .. I didn't say anything intentionally offensive, as I was considering becoming a candidate to join them two years ago. I'll clarify myself for you better: It's true that they didn't kill Alfalfa or anyone (because they wouldn't), I only said what I said because I played detective looking into Mr. Switzer's life, and I had indeed come to the conclusion that he was indeed setup. Three days after I had posted my original message, on January 3rd 2005 the truth of what really happened to Alfalfa on January 21, 1959 surfaced. It was a good surprise, but for a long while I was quite upset by it. So no of course the Masons didn't kill him. They helped him stage his death, hence the reason why and fact that his middle name "Dean" is not on his headstone, among other things. By the way, he officially passed away on November 4th 2005 and was cremated on the 6th at 5:30 am. All three graves on Alfalfa's plot are fake. The pictures on all three headstones for his, his father Fred and his brother Harold put together (consider in context to their lives) reveal what really became of all three of them. I'm not allowed to tell you anymore out of respect for Mr. Switzer and his family. He reminded me that he revealed himself on an episode of 20 / 20 with Barbara Walters and Hugh Downs back in September 1990. It amazes me how society overlooked that show.
By the way, for the record, the freemasons are an inter-faith fraternity. They've got Christians, Jewish, Catholic, and Buddhist members. So eventhough they teach from the bible, as a fraternity group they don't claim to be one religion. Their main requirements are, you must be a male (young boys go to DeMolay, and the Women go to Job's daughter and Esther), you must believe in God, and you cannot live an immoral life. That's the Christian side of them and that's good. Being a pilar of society in your local community is a requirement. They don't punish you if you don't go to their meetings (true), eventhough it is stated in their doctrine you'll receive death by beheading if you leave or tell their secrets. And as I said, what happens in their secret meetings is also true, regarding Wicca and White Magic. Yep, I've seen it firsthand, and there are many websites and books written and created by current and past Masons. One book you can find at the bookstore is called The book of Hyram. It talks about the Scottish Rite, and it goes into full detail about when you go through the induction ceremony, you're figuritively dying to self while dressed in white as other members pull on you and put you out by hitting you on your forehead. And when you wake up you have to climb out of this pit like you're fighting to live. Once you're out they proceed to each alter in each corner of the temple reading verses from the illuminati pledging an oath to Satan, who is affectionately dubbed "The Light." With each completed level of freemasonry, you're continuously encouraged to "seek the light." So in public the masons are good and innocent, but in private they do a whole bunch of stuff . and yes sometimes they do just sit around, talk and play cards. None of this is much of a secret any how. This news is all out in the open.
Have a great day!
-Quincy
"Life is big. Take full advantage." - Carl Dean "Alfalfa" Switzer-Eldridge, (January 4th, 2005) -
otterbaby — 20 years ago(January 04, 2006 07:51 PM)
Thank you for the clairifacation!
WOW!!!!!! You mean "Alfalfa" faked his death???!!! All this time he was alive and just recently died this past year???!!! WOW! I am amazed!
Natalie
"Parfaits just might be the best damn thing on Earth!" Donkey from shrek -
quincy_gaines — 20 years ago(January 20, 2006 02:16 PM)
Hi Lilant,
They should! I've tried that, but getting it produced proved to be quite a bear due to all his secrets and the people he fraternized with. The freemasons with their power and financial clout would never let such a film see the light of day, because the story can't be properly told without infringining on them. They played such a key role in his life. And besides, I've found out another key detail regarding Mr. Switzer . the story of him as I know him still is not complete. It never will be complete. He did SO MANY things in his life. What I've revealed here is only scratching the surface.
-Quincy
"Life is big. Take full advantage." - Carl Dean "Alfalfa" Switzer-Eldridge, (January 4th, 2005) -
quincy_gaines — 19 years ago(November 26, 2006 09:19 AM)
been there done that! The story is legally bound in all aspects of it, because it involves King World, The Freemasons, and U.S. Government. Infringing on the rights of these three organizations could get you imprisoned. The people who knew Alfie best are all now dead, and what's left to find is protected in secrecy by his friends and some family members who vowed to not tell. He is presently ill and wants people to know this. If he tells his story about his involvements with the government (which despite $$$$$$ offers he refuses to tell anyone), it could endanger his family and the security of our country, and so somethings are ultimately better left unsaid. When it comes to the Masons and the CIA, his lips are sealed, and understandably so. If you meet his friends and family, don't ask about Alfalfa . Let them tell you freely in natural conversation, or else they'll label you a reporter and they won't talk to you.
Happy Holidays!
"Life is big. Take full advantage." - Carl Dean "Alfalfa" Switzer-Eldridge, (January 4th, 2005) -
quincy_gaines — 19 years ago(November 26, 2006 11:25 AM)
Hi lansky1x, I found your message today. I apollogize for not being able to receive it sooner. I've changed my email address and forgot to tell IMDB. : ) If yob68u're still interested in talking about Alfalfa Switzer please let me know, and I'll be quick to reply. I'd love to share what with you what I know about him, and it will be awesome to know what you've learned in your own research on the kids. Of all the kids' personal life stories, in my opnion, the ones who became the most overlooked and neglected by today's society are Alfalfa, Buckwheat, Farina, and Darla. The people today's society know the most about are Spanky and Butch (among others that have made recent appearances), because they've both made significant efforts on television to document the Little Rascals in recent history before passing.
Talk to you soon!
-Quincy
"Life is big. Take full advantage." - Carl Dean "Alfalfa" Switzer-Eldridge, (January 4th, 2005) -
lace_and_curls — 18 years ago(January 30, 2008 05:50 AM)
"Since he fell ill last year, he's not been able to reply to my emails."
Well if he died, according to you on January 4, 2005, I would think he would really be having a hard time replying to your e-mails. The rest is just long speculation or an attenpt to make yourself appear more important than you really are. If you can prove any of this, prove it. Don't sit there and say I can't say more out of repsect for the family. If you truly respected the family (and if this is unbelievably true), you wouldn't even have stated that he "faked his death". Wouldn't that disrespect Carl Switzer? If he faked hs death, as you claim, he did it for a reason. Did he tell you to tell others he faked it?
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quincy_gaines — 14 years ago(July 29, 2011 06:20 PM)
He made it clear it was no longer a secret. His picture and info are available online via facesearch.com. Btw, he died officially in nember 2006. during my conversation with him he gave me a picture to prove himself. And thats what ended my dis belief. And as I said, he's gone public and outed himself in recent years on tv, but the story of his 1959 tragic demise overpowered his comeback. I'm not sharing this to gain notoriety from it or to cause problems for anyone, but just to set the record straight that he did try to undo his lie and he caught hell for it. And I'm also prvoing here that this is a case of "seek the truth and you will find it." Stories with holes in them are actually hiding stuff. Only those who care to look will find rge truth, and those who have found it get written off as certifiable, until they prove it. Regarding Alfalfa, I have a few easily findable pics of him in his old age.
"Life is big. Take full advantage." - Carl Dean "Alfalfa" Switzer-Eldridge, (January 4th, 2005) -
quincy_gaines — 14 years ago(July 29, 2011 05:42 PM)
Natalie, look him up on facesearch.com and you will find fairly recent post 1959 photos. In the 80's
Alfalfa and his wife Marie moved to Fresno, California where they retired. He came out of hiding, went on television to set the record strai111cght , but he recoiled after that had failed. He and his son had even tried capitalizing on Hal Roach's brand. They opened a moderately successful local fresno based casting agency for kids , called "Our Gang casting." I found him online, via a restaurant in seattle, where he resided many years, I then spotted him at Tom Corrigan's steakhouse, and after I had interacted with him online, he explained to me, that he saw the reputation he had garnered as a child actor, and he needed a fresh start to move past his career. He told me that I wasnt the only one who found him. He sent me his picture to disspell my disbelief, and he said that all he wanted was to be left alone. Hollywood never stopped coming to him about his early career. By the time he retired, he threw up his hands and embraced his post.. Online you'll not only find post 1959 photos of Alfalfa via facesearch.com search for "Carl Switzer") info on "our gang casting agency" in Fresno, and you'll even find that the website domain name "carl-switzer.com" is registered to him at his Fresno address. Any one who does this research on his life story will come to the same conclusions I found. As this info is easy to find. An example of a hole in the January 21st, 1959: according to the autopsy report, Alfalfa was shot at 6:30pm (at 10400 Columbus ave in Mission hills California just north of Devonshire.), and the nearest hospital at the time was Valley
Receiving (now known as Northridge Medical Center) located off Sherman Circle, which is 7 minutes south of that house via an ambulance drive with few street lights on Woodman ave. the hospital is near Van Nuys blvd and Sherman way (two blocks east of Alfalfa's Masonic temple and a mile from his last residence on Sepulveda.) According to the Coroners report whic
h is sold with the inquest hearing notes and death certificate, (interesting to note autopsy photos are available to next of kin, but anyone is able to buy the other stuff); he was shot at 6:30pm and pronounced dead on arrival at 7:30pm. It took his friends 20 minutes to stop gawking over him like clueless morons as Alfie fought for his life. At 650pm, Rita corrigan finally gets the bright idea to call an ambulance, which arrived after the police at 7:15 pronouncing him dead at 7:30pm. Long story short, the the whole scene spells "cover-up" as it should have not taken an hour to get Alfalfa to the hospital its seven minutes away! Lastly, read the inquest notes and
"Life is big. Take full adva pntage." - Carl Dean "Alfalfa" Switzer-Eldridge, (January 4th, 2005). -
otterbaby — 20 years ago(January 04, 2006 07:57 PM)
Are you 100% sure that he faked his death??? iMdb.com says he died on Jan. 21, 1959. There also is no record of him being on 20/20 in 1990.
He really faked his death or is this one of those "Elvis is still alive" type things???
If this is true the only thing I have to say is WOW!
Natalie
"Parfaits just might be the best damn thing on Earth!" Donkey from shrek -
annarangel — 15 years ago(November 22, 2010 06:45 PM)
HI Natalie.
You CAN`T actually know what happens INSIDE masonery because someone very close to me told me is a TOTAL secret, and every member of the group is forbided to talk about it even to his wife, or kids so no one can now for sure what happens there
If a member talks about what happens there , he surely will be expelled from the Masonery forever.. so, as I tell you how can you be so sure? nobody can, except if you are a member yourself, and, in that case you can't talk about in on the internet. -
otterbaby — 20 years ago(November 03, 2005 07:20 PM)
I also want to add that Masons don't kill members expecially just because they quit going to their meetings!
I know someone um, "joined up"(didn't know the right term) as a Mason about 5 years ago and he hasn't been to meetings for a few years, now.
He's still friends with those guys!
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!
Natalie
"Parfaits just might be the best damn thing on Earth!" Donkey from shrek -
tbrox — 19 years ago(June 06, 2006 04:28 PM)
"When you become a Mason, let's just say you pledge your life to the fraternity eternally, via making a vow to Lucifer and the teachings of the illuminati."
Now that is total and complete bull! I would like to say that Masons do nothing of the sort. My dad is a Mason and he recently just finished up his term as the Master of his lodge. When I say "Master" I don't mean some dictator who everyone bows down and worships. I mean a guy who runs the meetings, makes the plans for their parties or whatever, and donates money to charity and scholarships for kids.
"I also want to add that Masons don't kill members expecially just because they quit going to their meetings!"
I would have to agree with Nat on that. You do not have to devote your life to them, you can come and go to meetings as you please and your fellow Masons will not penalise you for doing that. My father does not go to every single one of the meetings and he has not recieved death threats and no one has attempted to murder him.
And that is total bull when you say that Masons pledge their lives to Lucifer. That is not even close to being true. The Masons are a Christian based organization. They would definately not commit themselves to Devil Worship.
And Demolay is basically the same the Masons but it is for young boys who are sons of Masons. In fact, I was part of an organization for young girls that are DAUGHTERS of the Masons and they are called "the Triangles". Triangles eventually become "Eastern Stars" which is the organization of wives, daughters, and mothers of Masons. All of these groups promote friendship, caring for one another, and charitable works such as the child I.D. program, scholarships, and a medical research facility.
The rumors about Masons are prepetuated by ignorance and fear. That is why I took the time to let you know what they are about. If Alfalfa was alive and in trouble he could count on his Masonic brothe5b4rs to come to his aid because that's what they do.
I don't mean to sound harsh or anything, but reading what you said about the organization my father formally ran in his lodge really angered me. Before you go on blaming charitable and well-respected organizations like the Masons for a person's death and posting up fictional rumors about, do a little more research on them before you say anything bad about them.
Thanks for listening!
"this COKE tastes like PEPSI" -Little Nicky