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Tracey_Parker — 12 years ago(February 22, 2014 05:48 AM)
I would like to point out that Mr Tavare is speaking Dari, not Farsi in that clip, and it was for a lead role in the hit film Lone Survivor. It is common knowledge that he has spoken Spanish, Apache, Navajo, Cheyenne, Lakota and Arabic in previous films he's acted in. This is not a unique incident of him speaking another language. The esteemed late Elbys Hugar, who's the Great Granddaughter of Cochise, was the language consultant for The Missing. She understood Jay perfectly and commended him in an Alamogordo news paper on his linguistic skills in this film.
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Tracey_Parker — 12 years ago(February 22, 2014 11:12 PM)
Susan it seems you get your facts off most of the time. You have been wrong with dates and info on Jay Tavare many times. So here are some real truths for you.
FYI, the IMDB message boards are no longer attached to IMDB Pro for the simple fact, people like you, Susan, spread lies and hateful comments on therehere are some facts about Jay Tavare in response to your points above.- Jay had said he was up for Lone Surviver a Peter Berg Movie while he was in London not last year but in 2012 and that footage is from his first audition tape. He was screen tested again after that I will ask him to post a clip of the two characters he read for. Gulap the lead villain Taliban and Taraq the good Afghani who helped Marks character to survive.
- This is totally wrong info you are given sorry to correct you. The movie was already shot by then. Peter Berg wanted to meet Jay but he was not in town in summer 2012.
- No movie company did someone close to Jay must have given you the short clip without any permission.
- That is total here-say Mr. Tavare (and who he dates) is not common knowledge and anyone who claims they are dating Jay is most likely not. How would you recognize any language he speaks unless you were a Farsi speaker yourself? this is clearly a lie and makes no sense at all ?
- Mr. Tavare is actually not a very hairy man. He can grow facial hair. It is a fallacy that Native men have no facial hair. The Cherokee wore mustaches during the Civil War as many other American Indians had and have facial hair to this day. Just as not all natives are dark skinned or have straight dark hair. These are stereotypes that clearly still exist in ignorant minds. Beside Mr. Tavare is of mixed blood lines and not full blooded. I saw several men on the Apache Reservation sporting facial hair.
- Nothing you post on his page is allowed cause you are a troll who has been spreading misinformation and lies about Mr. Tavare one of the main reasons why none of your comments remain on IMDB for long.
7). First off hib68s name is Jay not Jai. Once again you are getting your facts wrong. Where do you get that name ? Show us any proof his name is anything but Jay ? Also Jay did not remove anyone from his FB page. The people you had targeted on his hate page you run, did not want to be used in your smear campaign after seeing how you were spreading your misinformation using their photos you had posted without their permission. So they deleted Jay as a friend. They were also not his family so no hard feelings.
Seems like you have a lot to learn about the Man you are so obsessed with Susan. It's obvious you are more invested in this actors life than you like to admit. Your behavior is nothing short of a stalker who is obsessed with Jay Tavare and your actions are considered harassment in any court of law.
I worked with Jay both at the Rug Show, and at the Mescalero Apache Reservation. He is loved by both the Apache and the Navajo people. Jay showed utmost respect and love towards he Navajo grandmas. I never saw him disrespect them once. The joy i saw was truly moving. At the Apache Reservation, he worked tirelessly and I could see how fond the Apache people are of him. He was welcomed with open arms and that flowed over to me and the other cast members. Having shared those moments with Jay and the Native American people showed me what a loving, caring and respected person he is.
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Tracey_Parker — 12 years ago(February 23, 2014 06:25 AM)
Susan, I have told you previously, I dislike word wars. I know that n5b4othing I say will ever convince you otherwise about Jay, and I generally feel any interaction with you is a waste of time. Yet, I dislike my close friend coming under constant fire and attack from you and your cronies. I feel compelled to say this in support of Jay, because I do know him personally and he's not the monster you lot make him out to be. He has compassion and a passion for life unlike anyone I've ever met. He's an intelligent, loving person who devotes a lot of his time helping others, including Native American communities, fans, friends, and animals. These are not the actions of an evil personQuite the contrary!
I have to question your reasons for this vendetta against Jay. Especially since you've never met him. You have never experienced Jay in person, and you were never a close friend of his, so how can you judge and ridicule a man you do not know. I am aware you volunteered for him for a few months a decade ago, together with 3 others, running a fan website. You base all your personal experience with him from that short window of time. You have never known him personally, yet you have harassed him constantly saying extremely demeaning, racist things. You have dedicated a hate page towards him with highly offensive content. You often taunt him and anyone who supports him with abusive comments on his social medial sites, under your many fake profiles. This is called harassment. If he is a nobody, nor a celebri2000ty (as you claim), and unimportant to you, why do you devote so much time and energy trying to discredit Jay. I find that very strange behavior. You have argued the reasons for your dislike and hatred, but I find them disingenuous and the real reason you are keeping close to your chest, possibly for fear of humiliation. You have continued relentlessly for years on end to bring him down. This seems excessively extreme behavior towards someone you do not know, and is considered stalking. Maybe you should seek psychological help to deal with your hate and/or rejection issues.
You have so many fake profiles that anytime a hater goes off on a frantic charade on his FB page, or other social media sites, we automatically assume it is you, based on your past and current shenanigans. This all comes across as a mentally unstable person and a woman scorned, which discredits anything you say against Jay. You need to live your life for you, not for some dashed dream and devote as much time and energy to something positive and fulfilling. Why let your hate for this man consume your waking hours? Life is so short. You need to let go of your hate and move on with your life. Embrace peace and harmony, not aggravation and discord. You are humiliating yourself. Have some dignity and move on. -
StopU2 — 12 years ago(February 23, 2014 12:17 PM)
Toosie let me educate you cause you throw that word FACT and TRUTH around a lot but not sure if your really know what the word really means. The dictionary defines FACT as a concept whose truth can be proved. Tracy, I have to say you make many valid points. I have followed Jay Tavare for years and he is talented clearly. He helps many people with his time and money annually. He seems to have his heart in the right place. Toosie you say Mr. Tavare has only been in the US for 20 years when IMDB clearly has him credited for over 20 years of credits. He was shooting Street Fighter 20 years ago as an American film actor so it seems your information is off again.
I also have followed Michelle Shinning Elk and all her claims against Mr. Tavare and frankly I don't believe her. No one who has a Restraining Order ( RO ) would spend all her time trying to bug or irritate the very person they claimed they were afraid for their life to get the RO in the first place ? It seems to me she has been harassing Mr. Tavare for many years too and is probably one of the fake names on your hate page. I don't believe she is very credible person many of her client list has vanished, any wonder why?
So Susan if you have definitive proof of his name or ID why not post any legal documents you have to back up your ridiculous claims ? I mean a passport copy or birth certificate or a DL or any legal documents backing your claims will make it fact . Unless you have that you have nothing but accusations and unproven claims not FACTS. There is a major difference
sweetheart. LOL
I have also never witness Jay Tavare being rude to anyone on line on the contrary he is always down to earth and seems to go out of his way to respond to his fans and even help them out. So once again you seem to be caught in another lie.
Toosie or Susan or whoever you are this week on line, you sound very disturbed woman and I feel sorry for you yet I do not understand why you are so invested in your hateful ways. Grow up woman stop lying you are making all of us women look pathetic here. Come on girl. -
StopU2 — 12 years ago(February 23, 2014 06:34 PM)
Susan, yes I know as much about you as you claim to know about Jay, which is much of nothing as I have never met you just like you have never met Jay Tavare. It's all heresay, speculations and maybe some old bitter friends or foes. You put yourself out there of course, people are going to KNOW or find out some things about you, which from where I'm sitting makes you a complete JOKE! You think you are the only one that can so-call research on a person, not so fast Sherlock, LOL!!. But you are a disgrace as a woman, going on and on about things you have no idea about and stating them as Facts. The fact is and always will be you are a woman filled with hate and EVERYONE can see that. You come off like you are the voice for the American Indians, who made YOU the voice, of all 565 nations ? Who the hell are you ? A nobody who is getting some attention riding Jay Tavare's coat tail. Just Pathetic and ignorant as it gets. Certainly I did not ask you to police American Indian actors in Hollywood and I don't know anyone else who did. If you're mad at Jay Tavare for supposedly taken roles away from other Native actors, then also be mad at him for playing a Latino, an Arab, Europeans and the list goes on. You are just ridiculous and butt of so many jokes that is how I know about you sadly and I am embarrassed for you as it seems you are way too ignorant to know when it's time to accept the only thing you are achieving is making a bigger ass of yourself. LOL!
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serendipitysue2 — 12 years ago(February 25, 2014 02:18 PM)
Tracey you're talking in circles and it's hard trying to follow you. First you wrote this -
I would like to point out that Mr Tavare is speaking Dari, not Farsi in that clip, and it was for a lead role in the hit film Lone Survivor.
But then you wrote this -
Jay had said he was up for Lone Surviver a Peter Berg Movie while he was in London not last year but in 2012 and that footage is from his first audition tape.
First you say it was 'for a lead role in the hit film Lone Survivor' then 'up for' the role and it was an audition tape.
If you're a fan, friend or whatever of Jay, that's fine. But you s5b4eem to be implying things that aren't true and that makes everything else you say not very believable.