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    comicman117 — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 04:15 PM)

    Dude! The Hellboy movies are terrifically made films, and they're all fun of watch to. The Devil's Backbone is also one the most intense beautiful films I saw last year, and it's from 2001.
    Pacific Rim was let off by critics because A) it wasn't as nauseating as the Transformers movies (like that's a benchmark) and B) it's a Del Toro movie.
    You know I'm not one to take reviews all that seriously, but ignorant one-sided posts like these make me want to shake my head. Whose to say, some critics didn't actually like Pacific Rim, huh? The first Hellboy and The Devil's Backbone, were well-received critically, and those were made before Pan's Labyrinth.
    Besides Pacific Rim already has a huge advantage over Transformers, night-time or not, the action scenes were actually well-shot, whereas in Transformers, the action sequences, are almost impossible to watch. Plus Pacific Rim was just plain awesome as far as I'm concerned.
    But now the reviews are coming out and more and more people are catching up on the fact that he's Del Toro is all style, no substance I guess.
    So, you just don't like most of his movies, okay!
    I wasn't waiting, I was just sitting and breathing. Got a problem with that?

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      Block-Busted — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 07:57 PM)

      Besides Pacific Rim already has a huge advantage over Transformers, night-time or not, the action scenes were actually well-shot, whereas in Transformers, the action sequences, are almost impossible to watch. Plus Pacific Rim was just plain awesome as far as I'm concerned.
      That and 'Pacific Rim' had a benefit of having almost no offensive sex/racist/drug jokes that plagued 'Transformers' series - particularly the second one.
      So, you just don't like most of his movies, okay!
      I could also easily argue with him that a lot of Spielberg films are style over substance, especially 'The Adventures of Tintin'.
      I guess del Toro is more like Steven Spielberg. Both directors mostly make "good" films and make "great" or "outstanding" films from time to time.

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        comicman117 — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 08:02 PM)

        That and 'Pacific Rim' had a benefit of having almost no offensive sex/racist/drug jokes that plagued 'Transformers' series - particularly the second one.
        I mean technically Michael Bay is actually not a bad filmmaker, but Pacific Rim is probably more coherent in a lot of different categories when compared to Transformers.
        I could also easily argue with him that a lot of Spielberg films are style over substance, especially 'The Adventures of Tintin'.
        I guess del Toro is more like Steven Spielberg. Both directors mostly make "good" films and make "great" or "outstanding" films from time to time.
        Heck I could make the argument that Peter Jackson is overreliant on CGI because of The Hobbit. It goes both ways for any director.
        I don't know if I'd put del Toro in the same category as Spielberg. del Toro tends to write the scripts for his films, and he usually makes un-audience friendly films. I mean it's amazing that Hellboy even got a sequel.
        I wasn't waiting, I was just sitting and breathing. Got a problem with that?

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          Block-Busted — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 08:10 PM)

          I mean technically Michael Bay is actually not a bad filmmaker, but Pacific Rim is probably more coherent in a lot of different categories when compared to Transformers.
          And 'Pacific Rim' has a benefit of THIS:
          Heck I could make the argument that Peter Jackson is overreliant on CGI because of The Hobbit. It goes both ways for any director.
          I actually liked 'The Hobbit' trilogy a lot, but it was definitely style-over-substance series, which is why I give some credits to Jackson for making 'The Lovely Bones' even if it didn't turn out all that well.
          I don't know if I'd put del Toro in the same category as Spielberg.
          Maybe they're not in a same category, but they do share THAT kind of similarity.
          del Toro tends to write the scripts for his films, and he usually makes un-audience friendly films. I mean it's amazing that Hellboy even got a sequel.
          Hey, now. 'Pacific Rim' is an audience-friendly film that looks like an MCU film - in good ways, of course.

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            comicman117 — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 09:33 PM)

            And 'Pacific Rim' has a benefit of THIS:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNzGvBJkVtk
            EPIC!!
            The Lovely Bones was excellent in terms of camera work and design, but as a story, it was really, really confused.
            Maybe they're not in a same category, but they do share THAT kind of similarity.
            I guess. del Toro is a bit more gruesome and out there then Spielberg is, though.
            Hey, now. 'Pacific Rim' is an audience-friendly film that looks like an MCU film - in good ways, of course.
            Yeah, shame we probably aren't getting a sequel though.
            I wasn't waiting, I was just sitting and breathing. Got a problem with that?

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              Block-Busted — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 09:38 PM)

              EPIC!!
              End credit sequence ALWAYS make the film much better than it is.
              Even 'The Last Airbender' had a great end credit sequence, which was actually better than the entire film itself.
              The Lovely Bones was excellent in terms of camera work and design, but as a story, it was really, really confused.
              I would definitely not write it off as a "total failure" though. The acting was great, visuals were great, and production values were great.
              And Brian Eno's soundtrack is highly underrated.
              I guess. del Toro is a bit more gruesome and out there then Spielberg is, though.
              Hey, Spielberg made 'Schindler's List', so that evens them out.

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                comicman117 — 10 years ago(October 16, 2015 12:59 AM)

                End credit sequence ALWAYS make the film much better than it is.
                Even 'The Last Airbender' had a great end credit sequence, which was actually better than the entire film itself.
                End credit sequence usually make me excited. I think my favorite has to be Up.
                I would definitely not write it off as a "total failure" though. The acting was great, visuals were great, and production values were great.
                And Brian Eno's soundtrack is highly underrated.
                It was okay overall, I just found the story very disjointed, and yes Brian Eno's score was very good. Kinda mysterious-like.
                Hey, Spielberg made 'Schindler's List', so that evens them out.
                True, and real life horror is generally more scarier then fictional spook horror.
                I wasn't waiting, I was just sitting and breathing. Got a problem with that?

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                    Block-Busted — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 11:29 PM)

                    Except Spielberg's worst film is received worse than del Toro's worst film. That does NOT mean that I'm discrediting Spielberg as a whole.

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                          comicman117 — 10 years ago(October 16, 2015 01:03 AM)

                          Fine, fine, fine! I don't mean to be rude or anything, I'm actually a very big fan of del Toro's, what I particularly enjoy about his style, is that he clearly has a love for the source material that he's adapting. Pacific Rim for example, might be a dumb robot movie in essence, but it's so much fun to watch, and if you're a fan of Kaiju films like I am, it's a blast.
                          He's also really good at creating mood. His three Mexican films, and even parts o5b4f the Hellboy movies have some pretty creepy imagery.
                          I wasn't waiting, I was just sitting and breathing. Got a problem with that?

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                            mandelkubb — 10 years ago(March 10, 2016 04:41 AM)

                            I totally agree with you, this man is really overrated. I didn't enjoy any movie made by him.

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