Gay???
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pocca — 20 years ago(September 26, 2005 04:32 PM)
Jean was actually Alberto's son. Valentino's close friend Paul Ivano also denied that Valentino was gay. The most persistent rumours seem to have involved Norman Kerry and Andre Daven (the stories about Valentino and Ramon Novarro have been pretty much discredited, though). Seeing as most of Valentino's contemporaries are dead themselves now, unless a secret stash of correspondence or revealing memoir is found, it is pretty much impossible to conclusively prove or disprove the rumours. Perhaps a case could be made for Valentino being bisexual, if not primarily gay (his feelings for both his wives and his devastation over the failure of both marriages seemed very genuine).
I feel a bit badly for Emily Leidershe has been attacked by some reviewers for giving any credibility at all to the gay rumours and others, for supposedly not giving them enough credibility (one reviewer compared her to a nervous female groupie). To my knowledge though, it is the best documented biography about Valentino currently in print.
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pocca — 20 years ago(October 01, 2005 11:38 AM)
Heh, Valentino's sexual orientation shouldn't matter, but God knows these "Is he or isn't he?" threads (and it sometimes seems as though every male star except for Benjie has one) are among the most popular on imdb.
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Tripetta10 — 20 years ago(October 05, 2005 12:34 PM)
The Leider bio is probably the best documented out there. But when Leider tries to make a case for a possible affair bewteen Rudy and Andre Daven, she relies VERY heavily on conjecture. A bit odd, considering that for most of the book she makes a strong case for Rudy being straight
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Swissangel4616 — 19 years ago(January 24, 2007 08:17 AM)
here are two pics with Andr Daven
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eden_echo — 19 years ago(March 13, 2007 11:51 AM)
Or maybe, just maybe, he wasn't gay, and no it wouldn't matter one way or the other, but not every strikingly good looking man was gay or even bisexual.
Some people just seem to apply that to almost EVERY actor out there, past and present. Women were not left out either, geez!
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Aulic Exclusiva — 19 years ago(March 20, 2007 05:32 PM)
Why else would a middle-class boy have emigrated from his native country?
Both his wives, including his so-called "great love" Rambova, were lesbians.
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black_stormraven — 19 years ago(March 25, 2007 05:56 PM)
Why else would a middle-class boy have emigrated from his native country?
Let's ask the Irish. Answer: potato famine. Ask the Mexicans: poor economy i.e. no work. Ask the Middle Easterns: freedom, religious and political. Ask the Jews: WWII/Holocaust. Ask the Armenians: genocide. There's plenty of reasons why someone emigrates from his/her homeland, not solely because of his or her sexuality.
And for the record, Rudy's first wife was a lesbian, but Rambova was bisexual.
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cclub — 19 years ago(March 26, 2007 09:01 PM)
Why else would a middle-class boy have emigrated from his native country?>>>>
What does his two bitch wives being lesbians have anything to do with him being gay or bi? I fail to see a correlation.
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iamthemook — 18 years ago(August 20, 2007 02:52 PM)
apparently not. When he arrived in the U.S. in the mid-1910's, he found work as a tango dancer many of whom found work as gigolos who catered to weathly society women (he allegedly slept with Alice Roosevelt Longworth, Lillian Russell, and Lillie Langtry) and later had affairs with Pola Negri, Allah Nazimova (who was bisexual), Nita Naldi, Vilma Banky, Dolores del Rio, Myrna Loy (he got her a screen test and bedded her as well), Mae Murray, Gloria Swanson, May McAvoy, Renee Adoree and BeBe Daniels among others. His two wives, Jean Acker and Nata5b4sha Rambova were lesbians.
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cclub — 18 years ago(August 26, 2007 09:29 PM)
apparently not. When he arrived in the U.S. in the mid-1910's, he found work as a tango dancer many of whom found work as gigolos who catered to weathly society women (he allegedly slept with Alice Roosevelt Longworth, Lillian Russell, and Lillie Langtry) and later had affairs with Pola Negri, Allah Nazimova (who was bisexual), Nita Naldi, Vilma Banky, Dolores del Rio, Myrna Loy (he got her a screen test and bedded her as well), Mae Murray, Gloria Swanson, May McAvoy, Renee Adoree and BeBe Daniels among others. His two wives, Jean Acker and Natasha Rambova were lesbians.>>>>
In Emily Leider's book, it is noted that he had a relationship with up and coming French actor Andre Davenhe was either bisexual or straight, but I know he wasn't a homosexual.
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cclub — 18 years ago(August 26, 2007 09:35 PM)
Nazimova! He never slept with her. Most of those affairs are 'alleged' and there is no proof he slept with Naldi, Nazimova and many of those other women. He even resisted the advances of gloria swanson because he was so deeply in love with Natacha.
Rudy was a pretty conservative guy on sexual matters.
