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    Sparky48 — 14 years ago(December 16, 2011 04:04 PM)

    During the 80s, Vanity was pretty hot, in terms of not only her appearance but also her career as an entertainer. However, she blew it all, circa '86, when she made racist remarks about her father, a black man, on a talk show hosted by Joan Rivers.
    At the time, Vanity was filming some movie, and during the shooting of a scene she had to be filmed with some gorillas. Rivers asked her if her mother had a problem with her being exposed to potential danger from the wild beasts. Vanity replied something to the effect of, "No, she married my father. He's black and a gorilla; so she likes gorillas." Needless to say, the comment was racist and in very bad taste.
    Vanity's only strength as an entertainer was her sex appeal. As such, she had created a strong following from brothers who adored her looks and became the bulk of her fan base. However, once word of her racist comment came out, it alienated black men for obvious reasons. As a result, they stopped supporting her, and her career fizzled out and deservedly so.
    Lesson learned: Fans make you, and fans can also break you!

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      claregarrity117 — 14 years ago(December 30, 2011 04:16 PM)

      interesting i never knew this or heard about it, did you watch the interveiw?

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        Sparky48 — 14 years ago(December 31, 2011 06:40 AM)

        Yes, I did. As I said before, it was around 1985/86, and it was on a talk show hosted by Joan Rivers.
        I imagine you were not around then or maybe too young to know, but for obvious reasons, her tasteless remarks caused pandemonium.
        In an article featured in Jet, she tried to say that her remarks "were taken out of context," but everyone knew that was bull. I located some information about it at her Web site http://allisvanity.us/?p=228
        Check it out.

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            Sparky48 — 14 years ago(February 04, 2012 06:40 AM)

            I already gave a Web site link that confirms what I said
            (http://allisvanity.us/?p=228)
            Before you accuse someone of being a liar, read something thoroughly, sir.

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              squiffydoodle — 14 years ago(March 05, 2012 12:35 PM)

              I applaud Denise for her honesty and not pulling any punches
              "THAT GIRL'S GOT ANOTHER CUPCAKE COMING!"

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                Sparky48 — 14 years ago(March 06, 2012 07:13 AM)

                Assuming you're black, if you "applaud" Denise for calling black people animals and on top of that saying it in public, you're stupid.

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                  missgangsmashers — 14 years ago(March 06, 2012 07:52 AM)

                  I do recall Vanity saying she was sorry for the statement she made and also said it was taken out of context. Vanity destroyed her own career with drinking and drugs.
                  NINA MAE MCKINNEY IS MAGNIFICENT

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                    missgangsmashers — 14 years ago(March 06, 2012 07:52 AM)

                    I do recall Vanity saying she was sorry for the statement she made and also said it was taken out of context. Vanity destroyed her own career with drinking and drugs.
                    NINA MAE MCKINNEY IS MAGNIFICENT

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                      Sparky48 — 14 years ago(March 06, 2012 10:25 AM)

                      I don't recall her ever apologizing for this remark, but yes, she did try to to say that the remark w1354as "taken out of context," which was total BS. There's no way her quote could have been misconstrued. Hell, her "explanation" probably even made things worse, because it was just an insult to the everyone's intelligence.
                      The day after she made that ignorant remark, black radio DJs across the U.S. such as Donnie Simpson in my hometown of Washington D.C.announced on the air that they would never play her records again. Also, as a justifiable protest, many blacks stopped buying her records and refused to pay to see her perform.
                      So I have no doubt that this is what led to her entertainment career coming to an end. Substance abuse was more so the effect stemming from the demise of her career and not the cause.

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                        squiffydoodle — 14 years ago(March 13, 2012 09:14 PM)

                        She was talking about her father, jackass, unless you think he represents all blacks then you're the stupid o5b4ne
                        "THAT GIRL'S GOT ANOTHER CUPCAKE COMING!"

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                          Sparky48 — 14 years ago(March 14, 2012 06:42 AM)

                          The verbatim of her quote is as follows:
                          She was into gorillas. She married my father, and hes BLACK
                          The key words here are "he's black" If you can't see that this is a racial slur then you're either a fan girl in denial, delusional or just a flat-out retard.
                          Given what you've posted so far, I would go with the latter.

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                            squiffydoodle — 14 years ago(March 14, 2012 09:05 PM)

                            You've just proved her point
                            "THAT GIRL'S GOT ANOTHER CUPCAKE COMING!"

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                              Sparky48 — 14 years ago(March 15, 2012 10:07 AM)

                              Just like you just proved how incredibly STUPID you are by making that statement, being that you're black yourself.
                              Vanity was a racist, and you're a total idiot. Case closed.
                              "There are only two things that are infinitethe universe and human stupidity, and I'm not exactly sure about the former."
                              -Albert Einstein

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                                squiffydoodle — 14 years ago(March 15, 2012 03:05 PM)

                                So predictable
                                And who said I was black?
                                "THAT GIRL'S GOT ANOTHER CUPCAKE COMING!"

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                                  gluserty — 14 years ago(March 24, 2012 02:17 AM)

                                  I think if Vanity was a non-black and made this comment, there would have been outrage. But since she made this comment somewhere between 1985/86, and her career didn't stall until about 1989, I don't think the comment affected her as much as her heavy crack use. Besides, she performed "Undress" live on "Soul Train" in 1988 (appeared live on Mtv featuring the same song that year also), and it seemed like the crowd enjoyed her.

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                                    jharmon64 — 14 years ago(April 03, 2012 02:38 AM)

                                    Agreed

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                                      Sparky48 — 14 years ago(April 07, 2012 11:57 AM)

                                      Believe me, outrage did break out after Vanity made her ignorant remark. I'm about the same age as Vanity, and I vividly remember. As I said earlier, many radio stations across the country ceased playing her records as a protest.
                                      Yeah, I saw that Soul Train episode the other day. But you have to remember that dancers on shows like this are PAID to applaud and cheer the musical guests who appear.

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                                        academas-177-729004 — 10 years ago(July 28, 2015 07:39 AM)

                                        I hate the ways people use the word ignorant. How is she ignorant? She made a comment about her father who she didn't like. What do you know about him? Nothing! Which means you're ignorant to her situation with him. She's fully aware that she's half black. She wasn't talking about blacks, she was talking about her dad. And sorry, but a white guy can look like a gorilla too. Don't play the race card on the poor gorillas

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                                          Sparky48 — 10 years ago(August 10, 2015 07:18 AM)

                                          How is she ignorant?
                                          For 98th time, this is the full context of Vanity's remark:
                                          "She was into gorillas. She married my father, and
                                          he's black
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                                          If I have to spell it out for you, what she's saying is that because her father is black that makes him a gorilla. If you can't see this as racist/ignorant comment, you're either stupid or a horny Vanity fan boy who's blinded by her sex appeal.
                                          Here's an archived news account of it all:
                                          http://books.google.com/books?id=2bMDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA58&lpg=PA58&dq=vanity+%2B+gorilla&source=bl&ots=sFA1QiLyLw&sig=MckY3DKXSC7o2i13P4obWtwEMJ8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Mx76U6nZOI6MyASQloC4Bw&ved=0CGoQ6AEwDA#v=onepage&q=vanity %2B gorilla&f=false
                                          "There are only two things that are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I'm sure about the former."
                                          -Albert Einstein

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