If they did Robin today
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tennavision — 16 years ago(May 10, 2009 02:34 PM)
Actually , it would be the same , Bob Kane was just ahead of the curve on millionaires adopting orphaned children..
Of course , the 1966 Batman TV show was done in the tongue in cheek campy Oscar Wilde type flair , so it just seems kind of gay, its too bad that HIDEOUS, HATEFUL, Sadistic, ROTTEN Dark Knight-asaurus ugly has turned Batman into something NO child should be watching, Burt Ward himself even said so. Bale /Ledger's Batman & Joker are NOT West/ Romero , this is psychotic sick torture fit for not even adults only ,yet packaged & marketed to kids. ANYthing is fine as long as no gay content is implied..
WB IMO RUINED the Batman Franchise, dark, depressing ugly, Bale mumbling in that laryngitis voice , Maggie Gyllenhag fugging up the screen , that script was a non-sensical whizz bang Ka-BOOMing muddled MESS. WRONG. WRONG WRONG. I really wish someone would do ab68 version of Batman that is closer to the TV show, loud, bright Technicolored set, campy funny lines, guest star villans, FUN.. you know
I never really understood this scenario of Bruce Wayne & Dick Grayson until I got older, actually now, as a gay man, I kind of wish they were gay , nothing more embarrassing for str8 men to get their arse kicked by 2 beep Of course you can cut someones head off in the cinema and get a pg rating, anything about sex or sexuality is R/ NC-17..
All these innuendos of cartoon characters under suspect of being gay is just a ridiculous speculating witch hunt for people who are bored and or have limited imaginations. It seems people in America are addicted to Bulls**t & self righteous indignation..
Burt Ward was the 1st celebrity I met as a child in Gibson's Dept. Store in Cleveland TN in 1970, he couldnt have been any nicer to the kids who waited in line to see him.
Ugh as one of my heroes sez about her alleged lesbian relationship with her childhood best friend Judy
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k-mann — 16 years ago(September 10, 2009 09:32 PM)
Christopher Nolan took Batman back to his roots. Baman was never supposed to be a kid friendly, funny, saturday afternoon entertainment figure. He was supposed to be frightening, psycotic. In the earliest comics the stories usually ended with Batman killing his foes.
The 60s Batman series is fun. I love watching it, and watched it as a kid too! But now I watch it for the humor. But The Dark Knight is a great movie - nay; film. The 60s Batman series doesn't hold a candle to it.
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satterwh — 16 years ago(December 12, 2009 05:48 PM)
Kinda. The earliest Batman was taken from the Shadow and the Spider. The Shadow was always my favorite character - one that was
never
done correctly on screen or radio. By the 9th appearance of Batman in Detective Comics, Robin was introduced. The fact is that Batman will never be complete without Robin - but not for the reasons most people think.
Robin is Batman's anchor on humanity. Without that anchor, Batman is a psychotic. He is so consumed by his "war on crime" - or his need for vengeance, if you will, that he is something less than a man. He has nothing to give him a grasp on reality. This is the real function that Robin provides. He gives Batman something that is both important to him and real. Without him, he is really no more sane than the villians he fights. -
jgs1935 — 15 years ago(October 26, 2010 12:40 PM)
Robin first appeared in the 12th Batman story (Detective Comics #38), not the 9th. Additionally, another story without Robin had been finished for Detective Comics, but did not appear until a few months later in Batman No. 1 (which hit the stands around the same time as Detective #40).
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elegoo — 15 years ago(June 22, 2010 02:53 PM)
Firstly, my god I thought I was the only one who hated Christopher Nolans films that much.
But unfortuntly I don't think that they need to go back to the shiney colourful tv version. Something in between would be nice. Batsy films should be dark, not child friendly (theres Superman for that). Something Nolans films didn't capture for me was Batmans regard for human life. He would beat the living crap out of suspects and baddies but not the normal everyday cops. And he's a detective for crying out loud! Lets see him do some actually detecting.
AS for Bruce and Dick being gay people really need to get over that. To start Dick was like 7 when Bruce took him in (and Bruce has never struck me as a peado). Dick is his anchour to humanity. 5b4A reminder of what he's fighting for. No bumming involoved.
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solitudesblind — 15 years ago(September 19, 2010 05:46 PM)
Read the original Batman stories from before Robin was introduced, they were pretty dark. Batman shooting vampires in their sleep, him doing nothing as villains fall to their deathswas good stuff. There's a paperback collection that came out within the past few years called, I think, "The Batman Chronicles" that collects all the early Batman stories in chronological order.
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Belleluvsroses — 15 years ago(July 05, 2010 10:55 PM)
You must know absolutely NOTHING about the background of Batman. His very own parents were murdered RIGHT before his eyes during a robbery when he was but a young lad of ten. He was raised in Wayne Manor by that faithful family retainer, Albert. Batman identifies with Robin's hurt, pain and frustration. Both were orphaned at young ages, they have that in common. Brue Wayne would NEVER, EVER in this world have molested a child, ESPECIALLY Robin!!
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elegoo — 15 years ago(July 07, 2010 10:07 AM)
Was that for me? Cos, I Know. I never said Batman was a child molester. IN fact my exact words were "Bruce doesn't strike me as a peado" Please be more careful when replying to comments. I'm a little upset.
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Belleluvsroses — 15 years ago(July 07, 2010 11:15 AM)
You wrote:
"So a billionaire adopts a young boy he saw orphaned."
which sounded to me like you were implying that Mr. Wayne was ready for some actionb68 with the kid, yes indeed. I must've skipped over your other comment the other night, so, to be fair, I went back and read it. Now, my question to you is:
Why, after making the comment about Wayne not being a pedo, did you make the other one which could be taken that he was? -
elegoo — 15 years ago(July 09, 2010 12:52 PM)
I totally didn't mean it in that context.
The OP tried to make the point that the original idea of Bruce taking in Dick as his ward wouldn't work in a modern setting and they (or possibly someone else) suggested that they'd make Dick Bruces cousin.
I thought that was ridiculous and unnessicary and thought "So a billionaire adopts a young boy he saw orphaned" maybe it should've been finished off with "so what? I don't see how that wouldn't work in a modern setting".
I hate when people assume that just because a billionaire playboy takes in a helpless young child that b68he must have sinister motives. Lets face it, it was what 1930's and that kind of thing was perfectly innocent.
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Belleluvsroses — 15 years ago(July 09, 2010 11:31 PM)
Well, glad we got THAT cleared up!!
Now, the movie you said you didn't like, are you speaking of the last "Batman" film, "The Dark Knight", in which the late Heath Ledger played the Joker? I've not viewed it yet, and really don't know if I wish to or not. NOT that a "Batman" flick has to be campy for me to enjoy watching it, but I heard from other sources that they took things a bit too far. -
elegoo — 15 years ago(July 10, 2010 03:29 PM)
No it was the first Christopher Nolans effort, Batman Begins. I've also not seen The Dark Knight and I know i don't want to.
I felt, for me personally, that Mr Nolan didn't capture anything of what Batman is. He changed established facts and made up others. I'd like to have seen more a more detective based Batman than the all action one we saw. The police chase Batman had little regard for the lives of the policemen involved, very NOT batman. Why wasn't there a prostitute called Selina being inspired by Batsy?
And to top it all off it was just a boring and badly made film. Christian Bale was laughable as Batman (although not awful as Bruce), Michael Cain was the wrong choice for Alfred and since when was Raas Al Ghul Irish? I did, however enjoy Gary Oldman.
I've always said while Tim Burtons versions are not comic accurate they are at least watchable, good films. My favourite was Batman Returns. Michelle Pfeiffer's Selina was all wrong but her Catwoman was just wonderful and almost right, as far as I'm concerned.
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The_Nightwing — 13 years ago(August 05, 2012 11:37 AM)
"You must know absolutely NOTHING about the background of Batman. His very own parents were murdered RIGHT before his eyes during a robbery when he was but a young lad of ten. He was raised in Wayne Manor by that faithful family retainer, Albert."
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LaPfieffer92 — 13 years ago(October 09, 2012 04:29 PM)
they did really good with chris o donnel, it seems perfectly feasable that bruce wayne would take in a boy who lost his parents out of charity and have him later becomne a sidekick. they did a good job with a "modern" robin in batman forever.
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brendanchenowith — 12 years ago(October 27, 2013 03:19 AM)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the whole Batman-and-Robin-are-gay thing pop up during the series, when they were played by men in their twenties and thirties, WITH devilish senses of humor?
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maxzorindresden — 12 years ago(January 12, 2014 07:19 PM)
It was a shrink in the 50s who thought B & R were gay and that Superman was a nazi icon (ironic cuz Superman was created by 2 jews)
Batman was only dark in '39 , in '40 when R came along it no longer had the dark atmosphere. Also there was lots of silly stories prior to '66 show in the 50s , the show just built on that.
Tintin is prolly gay though :
-seems to have zero interest in women
-only female friend is that opera singer
-only hangs out with the butler and capt Haddock at Haddocks mansion
Kidding
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