A lip synching asshat.
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funkyfry — 15 years ago(December 14, 2010 11:21 PM)
For my two cents, I just didn't like your tone in the OP if it was you who posted but basically I couldn't disagree that he was using a lot of overdubbing in the show. We were on the floor as well around the 30th row in San Jose, just last week. I thought it was an incredible show overall actually, but yes you could tell that he was being supplemented in some of the tracks. He told us at this particular show at least that he was going to duet with a recording of himself from 1980 on "Mother" so at least it wasn't a total mystery what was going on. Roger was really into performing the role, just clawing at the wall and rolling himself up into a ball and all of that, so I was pretty blown away by everything he was doing for us. I did suspect that "The Trial" was entirely pre-recorded, and the fact that all the musicians came out very quickly afterward with acoustic instruments seems to confirm that.
I don't think that was so much a big "lie" as just part of the nature of this very theatrical show. They couldn't blow up the Wall while the musicians were there on the stage. I would be surprised if major parts of it weren't prerecorded on the 1980 tour. In fact I have heard prerecorded stuff on Pink Floyd bootlegs from the early 70s, like when they did the Atom Heart Mother Suite in London in 1970 the entire instrumental section was just a tape. Was that a cheat? I dunno, how quickly do you want to draw lines in the sand here?
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ashfordcrane — 15 years ago(December 25, 2010 10:48 PM)
I don't know about all the lipsyncing, but just seeing what I've seen in recent performance videos, I definitely wouldn't pay a dime to see his shows now. What comes to mind immediately is a live version of "Comfortably Numb" in his newest tour. He's strumming an electric guitar (no bass) which apparently is silent since he spends half the time waving his hands in the air with no change in sound. Also during Gilmour's vocal parts, he just walks around away from the mic mouthing the words. No harmonies sung.
As far as his bass playing goes, the guy is a good songwriter, never a very strong bassist. I never gave it much thought, as I've loved everything he's played on. But recently I saw footage of "Young Lust" from an 80's show. I'm guessing there was a back-up band wearing masks of the real members. Where the other musicians apparently were just filling in the gaps, I was disappointed right after the line "Ooh, baby, set me free," with that groovy bass rundown in which Waters turned from the audience and was DEFINITELY not playing it. Then I recalled that Gilmour was credited as playing bass on the album as well. I can only assume Gilmour probably played the lick on the original recording and it was likely beyond Water's skill. No shame in that, but I think Waters should've ju2000st swallowed his pride and hung up the bass on that particular part of the performance.
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cvpidave — 14 years ago(April 10, 2011 02:52 PM)
"Then I recalled that Gilmour was credited as playing bass on the album as well. I can only assume Gilmour probably played the lick on the original recording and it was likely beyond Water's skill."
Yep. And on the studio version of "Hey You", that's David Gilmour playing a fretless bass.
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glacier1982 — 13 years ago(June 19, 2012 04:52 PM)
Just want to remind everyone that this never-ending tour The Wall is run by a giant fraud. Roger Waters has no dignity in my eyes anymore. The only way I'd ever see him again is if Floyd toured with him. Well, that and if I could meet him and tell him how disappointed I am in him.
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Chapaev36 — 15 years ago(January 04, 2011 12:09 PM)
I saw The Wall this fall and it sounded a bit too perfect.
But, you know, Roger isn't the young man he once was. I can't expect it to be completely raw. I still appreciate he goes out and performs.
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Galley_WormFilledSkull — 13 years ago(September 21, 2012 07:45 PM)
What do you expect from a douchebag who performs on a concert pro hunting foxes and says he "doesn't recognize the England that he used to know" now that hunting foxes has been banned and who attacks Israel's right to protect itself from terrorist attacks denouncing the Gaza Bank Wall as "an obscenity". The prick goes out to defend the "right" of rich englishmen to hunt foxes and dares use the word obscenity out of context. Arshole.
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