No Sympathy for the wicked
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Melissa_Antoinette_Garza — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 10:06 AM)
If society wants to improve the current state we are in, we should stop trying to rehabilitate scum. The death penalty is the perfect response to anyone who murders without merit, abuses a child in any way, or tortures (a.e. rape, holding innocents hostage, etc.)
Get rid of the scum.
She is 100% to blame. Regardless of what she endured, as soon as she killed someone innocent she transformed from the victim to the criminal and her potential value to society was gone. She deserved to die.
If you need drugs to be a good writer, youre not a good writer.-Rod Serling" -
leaaf — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 10:21 AM)
OK you say you've had a terrible childhood.. so shouldnt u on some level b able to understand why aileen was so messed up? the woman was rapped first at the age of 8! her grandad used to abuse her constantly.. he was believed to be her father, pregnant at 12 gave birth at 13 made to give the child away, thrown out and lived in terrible conditions, sexually abused by her fathers friend and then got the beats for it, started hooking at a terribly early age, was used abused throughout her lifeshe had noone. Imagine living that life. She was an object to every possible man in her life..thats disgusting.. how can you possibly not understand why she was so messed up? As a woman urself u should get this.. and if you dont then im sorry but i have no respect for you.
she was seriously damaged. -
Melissa_Antoinette_Garza — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 10:30 AM)
I would not want a person like you to have respect for me.
Your belief system encourages those who were abused to abuse others. You encourage murder, molestation, and abuse.
As a woman, I have enough sense to know that whatever you endure you rise above. The specifics of my childhood are irrelevant, but I'm still in therapy and on anxiety medication because of it. What I and my siblings had to endure as children was horrific. It has caused me night terrors, I know it's directly related to my OCD, and my panic attacks. Not one of us (me or my siblings) abused others because of it. When we reached adulthood and were able to move on, we did.
Utilizing what someone endured as an excuse for being a horrible adult is a slap in the face to anyone who had to deal with awful experiences and turned their lives around.
She deserves no sympathy. She was a horrible person. Seriously damaged or not she deserved to die for the pain she inflicted on others.
If you need drugs to be a good writer, youre not a good writer.-Rod Serling" -
leaaf — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 10:36 AM)
well ok i have no respect for u. like i said as a woman u should understand her on some level. she was beep up.
"Your belief system encourages those who were abused to abuse others. You encourage murder, molestation, and abuse. "
Right when did i ever encourage any of that? so just because i said that i dont blame her for being messed up and doing what she did it means that i've encouraged it?
Dont get me wrong but i think as someone whos been through some stuff ur incredibly insensitive to Aileen and her life Rape , sexual abuse child molestation and all that can beep someone up so bad. Dont even say it doesnt. You;ve just dealt with the beep better than others do.. not everyone is like that and the sooner u start realising that the more u;ll be able to understand.. right now you really dont. -
Melissa_Antoinette_Garza — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 10:41 AM)
You encourage it by providing excuses for it. "She was damaged." "She went through a lot" so of course that means she's not to blame for MURDER!! Are you high?
Most people who murder and rape and do awful things haven't had the best childhood. What if Aileen's father had a horrible childhood? Then maybe he wasn't to blame for raping Aileen either. Poor guy! We should do a documentary on him so bleeding hearts can hold a rally to clear his good name.
WTF? This is what is wrong with society! No one is to blame for their own actions!
Instead of focusing on the people who are benefiting society and helping to ensure abuse stops we're worshipping murderers because they had a bad life.
The inability to comprehend simple concepts is not my flaw, I assure you. You wanting to jump on the mainstream PC wagon and blame everyone but the individual who committed the crimes for the actions committed makes you unable to understand the most simple concepts.
If you need drugs to be a good writer, youre not a good writer.-Rod Serling" -
leaaf — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 11:20 AM)
All i am saying is i dont blame her for being so beep up.. stop twisting my words please.
and as i said before people who rape and are child molesters etc in my eyes are worse than those who just simply kill.
You are one of those women who i really have no respect for. you dont respect ursel1908f as a woman or other women.. i have no respect for you. you make me feel ill. By saying that she has no right to be messed up regardless of the fact that she had a terrible past makes you someone who is incapable of understanding anything.
She killed them..she didnt torture or rape or anything like that..she just killed them. now once again i am NOT saying that its what she should have done but i am saying i do not blame her for being messed up n doing what she did. Mallory most definitely deserved it and im sure the rest might have possibly done somethingtriggered something off in her brain that caused her to commit these acts of evil.
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Melissa_Antoinette_Garza — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 02:01 PM)
You're an idio111ct.
Read a book and learn something.
Start with "A Child called It.." or maybe he won't invoke so much sympathy because he's male.
oh and he also didn't kill anyone.
If you need drugs to be a good writer, youre not a good writer.-Rod Serling" -
leaaf — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 02:06 PM)
Thanks for the insult. You didnt have much to say did you?
"or maybe he won't invoke so much sympathy because he's male. "
Why am i not surprised you said that? sigh you really are a disgrace to other women out there. why must u say that? its silly.
Ok well i think you should sort out that heart of urs. there isnt anything there is there? im sorry about that. im sure u can work on it. -
Melissa_Antoinette_Garza — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 02:27 PM)
You shouldn't be surprised because your sole identity with women's lib is a serial killer. My guess is that under pressure you couldn't list one woman who changed the world or what their accomplishment was. (quick google it so you don't look like a complete fool) There are many brave women I admire. Many who I respect and aspire to be like.
You certainly are not one them, and neither is Aileen.
You have a child's mind and are unable to understand anything but a solidarity between a group that you try to hold on to despite the world being a bigger place and the adverse effects that ruin others lives because of that mindset. It's selfish and cruel.
For you to say that I'm heartless, I take as a compliment. Anyone who thinks thb68at someone who can take a life of an innocent has a heart, is quite messed up themselves.
I find it funny how you skipped over Aileen's father's possible tormented past or the Boy Called It. Again, those don't invoke the same level of sympathy because they aren't in the group you try so hard to protect even when one is an awful person. You would do well in a cult.
If you need drugs to be a good writer, youre not a good writer.-Rod Serling" -
leaaf — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 02:33 PM)
Oh that really made me laugh. I dont think i want to carry on this really pointless discussion with you.. once again your twisting my words.. i never ever said what she did was right.
"For you to say that I'm heartless, I take as a compliment. Anyone who thinks that someone who can take a life of an innocent has a heart, is quite messed up themselves."
I never said that did i? i only sa5b4id that aileen had a really messed up past and she was clearly beep up because of it did i ever say what she did was right??? why do i have to keep repeating myself to you. Please just use that little brain of yours.
"I find it funny how you skipped over Aileen's father's possible tormented past "
I did my dear. Like ive said before what aileens father did was worse than what she did. rape and torture is in my eyes far worse than someone taking life away.. its actually just as bad if not worse. You say ur a victim of such things but im starting to find it hard to believe. a person that has been raped and assaulted will never ever get over the pain
why are you getting so angry btw? -
Melissa_Antoinette_Garza — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 02:44 PM)
The reason that I'm angry is because the logic you have is destructive. They say that a victim of child molestation has more liklihood to become a child molestor themselves. I learned that in psychology class. After finding that out, it took me an additional 5 years to go to therapy and tell my friends what had happened to me because I feared that they would think because of my history I too would be screwed up.
When people defend scum like Aileen who uses her past as an excuse it reinforces that belief system. And then every person who was a victim becomes revictimized because then they can't openly talk about what happened out of yet another fear that causes more anxiety.
It's disgusting. Once you begin abusing, you're an abuser. The past is insignificant, and anyone who attempts to justify or make excuses for an abuser is just as bad themselves.
If you need drugs to be a good writer, youre not a good writer.-Rod Serling" -
leaaf — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 02:58 PM)
Ok I'm sorry if i have offended you in anyway.. i understand what you are saying about people shouldnt use their past as an excuse..i get that completely.. what i am saying to you is that people deal with things differently.. i dont think aileen herself ever used her past as an excuse i mean she mentioned all the crap that she went through..she dealt with it not as well as some people do. Everyone is different. Her past had obviously really bloody beep her up. Her hate and whatever drove her to kill those men must have had something to do with her past.
You are just misunderstanding me. I never said what she did was the right thing.. all i am saying is i can understand why she may have done it.. she was messed up. Sorry but i still do think rape and child molestation are just as bad as death maybe actually even worse. -
skinnythepooh — 16 years ago(June 30, 2009 04:23 PM)
tons of people have had bad childhoodsnot everyone knows how to get help or to overcome.
what she did was wrong, but she was an incredibly sick, damaged lady. i don't think she was evil, but i think her actions were.
she didn't have "the right" to kill anyone, i agree, but do you think that mattered to her? no one had "the right" to do the horrible things they did to her, and yet they did it. over and over again. all she knew, for the most part, was the pain other people inflicted on her since she was kid, into her teen years and as an adult. and she was tired of it.
if someone is haunted but doesn't get help for the nightmares they've lived, or is too sick to realize they need to seek it (and not to mention, has no support system) the inner pain can fester and lead to horrible things.
I guess we got the same dreamsor is it the same nightmares?