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    GenineTheGreat — 20 years ago(February 05, 2006 11:28 PM)

    I'm not trying to be arguementative here, seriously, I'm just curious, where did you hear her say that? I don't remember her saying that in either of the documentaries I watched, and I take the movie with a grain of salt.
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      dgunning — 20 years ago(February 06, 2006 01:02 AM)

      i read it in a magazine about the crimes, i think it was called real-life crimes
      i'll try and find it so i can give you the full title
      I never seen the guinea pig

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        JodieFosterRocks — 20 years ago(February 15, 2006 11:24 AM)

        I don't think she said that. And about the first victim he had actually been in prison for a violent rape which the police tried to keep from the court but came to light later.

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          graograman22 — 20 years ago(February 25, 2006 07:55 AM)

          You say torture has no proof, just her word for it. And then you say the proof of begging is precisely her word for it. You sir, have very very poor argumentative skills.

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            dgunning — 20 years ago(February 26, 2006 08:16 AM)

            ah go eat beep you stupid beep would she lie about a man begging for his life? it all boils down to whether you believe her or not, i believe that she did tell the truth. i also believe that something pushed her over the edge and it was not her entire fault that she became a murderer. don't you dare talk like you are better than me
            your post is meaningless anyway, you seem to beb68 trying to pss me off o sling your hook you worthless sht
            I never seen the guinea pig

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              stickydisgust — 20 years ago(February 28, 2006 11:01 AM)

              ahahaha dgunning, you got TOLD. You don't know what you are talking about you loon.

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                dgunning — 20 years ago(February 28, 2006 12:39 PM)

                who are you? what a productive post! eh i do know what i am talkin about, i may not have worded my argument properly but i do know what i am talkin about. You see i came to this thread with a purpose, i am not just some randon loser who fell onto the boards and started talkin16d0 beep to someone 🙂
                You seem to be the loon. Have a nice day
                I never seen the guinea pig

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                  heypixie — 20 years ago(March 05, 2006 06:21 PM)

                  One of my best friends is Richard Mallory's niece and we knew him. He was NOT what Aileen portrayed him to be. Did you know he suffered 10-20 minutes before he died? Aileen deserved what she got but she also deserved more pain for what she made others go through. I hope she rots in hell for eternity.

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                    dgunning — 20 years ago(March 06, 2006 01:49 AM)

                    But wasn't Richard Mallory in prison before he died for violent sexual assault or rape? Obviously he did not deserve to die and neither did aileen, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. he suffered for 10-20 mins? She suffered her whole life! i am not a do-gooder infact i used to be in favour of the death penalty but it is an easy, vindictive costly punishment. the people who execute someone are bringing hemselves down to the same level
                    aileen wuornos was a bad person but i honestly believe she never knew any better. she does not deserve to rot in hell, she deserves our pity
                    I never seen the guinea pig

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                      CWBwake — 20 years ago(March 06, 2006 03:33 AM)

                      im with dgunning
                      she said it was self defence. i dont know whether to believe her, i dont think her herself knew what happened by the end of it.
                      the death penatly is wrong, no questions
                      she should have been forced to5b4 live in prision for the remainder of her life, with help, so that she couls realise what she has done with wrong.
                      this woman had mental health issues
                      she needed help. not to be murdered

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                        heypixie — 20 years ago(March 06, 2006 02:54 PM)

                        Everyone has problems, and not everyone in her situation goes out and murders people. Richard was always loving towards us and showed no signs of intense hatred or violence whatsoever. You have no idea how much pain his death brought to us and his family (our friends) and the foul accusations that were brought against him. He couldn't defend himself and she knew it. She will never have my pity as she doesn't deserve it. She didn't show any of these men any pity.
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                          dgunning — 20 years ago(March 08, 2006 05:00 AM)

                          I agree with you about her never showing mercy. However Richard Mallory was a conficted rapist. Obviously though he didn't deserve to die. Neither did Aileen. No one is entirely innocent.
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                            CWBwake — 19 years ago(April 16, 2006 09:31 AM)

                            exactly, if you actually read my post i think you will find i said that, alieen was wrong, but sh111ce didnt deserve death, mallory was a convicted rapist so im sure he wasnt all sweetness and light . . . .
                            and plus, so what your friends with a relative of his, big deal, whats your point?
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                                      tstrausberg2003 — 18 years ago(March 04, 2008 11:38 PM)

                                      I agree

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                                        angHELLic67 — 18 years ago(December 06, 2007 08:08 PM)

                                        hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
                                        All of which are American dreams
                                        what about the old guy at the end she shot when he tried to help her

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                                          kdoopy23 — 18 years ago(December 18, 2007 02:22 AM)

                                          Ok all of these points made are good and valid points.
                                          Let's not forget that she was a very sick woman mentally and from a young age was just not mentally well. She got pregnant at a very young age - possibly abused by her grandparents and so on. Now this can possibly cause a person to go into the life that she led but ultimately the choices we make in life we must be held accountable. I was also badly abused by my mother. Aileen made her own mistakes in life but that did not need to mean that others lost their lives over this.
                                          I will say that picking up hitch hikers you get what you deserve - this is a dangerous thing to do and I hope it shows everyone that no matter how innocent someone looks - conisder Ted Bundy as well.
                                          As for feeling for her, to a point yes and no. I have seen the movies, documentaries, all of it. Why was she such a distructive and problem child? No matter how much her grandparents disiplined her she just seemed to get worse. I do not agree with the abuse but as a parent of a "problem" child I understand how hard it had to have gotten as she seemed to fight everything they tried to do for her. Funny that her siblings did not turn out as badly so I have to look at Aileen and consider the fact she was likely mentally challenged from a young age. Why did they not get help for her? Well could be because I tried to find help for my daughter and not too many doctors - back then - wanted to diagnose any type of mental illness - yes this is VERY TRUE. I know - my daughter was 18 before anyone would diagnose her and help found. I am lucky nothing happened like what did with Aileen.
                                          As for her victims - do you need proof that they begged for their life? Come on common sense will prove that. Would you beg to not die?? Would you attempt to fight for your life but somehow the evidence shows they did not have a lot of chance and as for taking time to die - dying by a gunshot wound is not immediate in most cases unless the right spot is hit and she did not s1c84eem to me to be a marksmen at the start. Consider the fact that she not only watched them die but took their cars and spent their money. I have very little sympathy for that action.
                                          Did she deserve to die? That is a loaded question. If she killed my family member, yes I would want to see her fry for what she did. I do not care how mentally ill anyone is there is NO REASON to allow them to kill and keep killing. Toward the end that woman was soo crazy that there was no help for her - where would you put her in a prison population? If not by lethal injection I am sure it would have been much more painful by a prison inmate. Could you keep her in solitary confinement for the rest of her life? What is worse may I ask?
                                          I felt very sorry for Aileen while watching the movie as well - isn't that what the producers want you to do? But after the movie is over and the tears spent, who benefited from her death? Why was her "lover" allowed to benefit and make tons of money off of this? Do any of you believe she was a blameless as the movie and documentary state? I doubt it. She seems like a money grubbing lazy bum. Why was she too good to work and why put all the pressure on Aileen to provide for her.
                                          Another thing to consider. Aileen was married to a very wealthy man at one point. Why did she find it necessary to abuse her spouse to the point he had to divorce her? She had a very good life with him. Money, a nice home and she destroyed that.
                                          Now I ask - look at the real facts. Yes I do believe she needed to die.
                                          As for Richard Mallory, well my brother was also convicted of a sex crime and served his time in prison. He has been completely crime free for the past 15 years. Should you hold that crime over his head if he is reabilitated and crime free? Or should a woman be allowed to kill him because she possbily hates men? Aileen lied to everyone. Why would she suddenly be telling the truth? Did you watch, really watch that documentary? She was always changing her story.
                                          My heart goes out to her victims and their families. Grandchildren were denied their grandpa, wives became widows, and children lost their father. Another thing to consider. Some of those families were sent to finanicial problems losing the main provider which at that time was often the husband/fathers while the mothers stayed at home taking care of the house and children. Do not forget the issues with the survivors of her deeds and do not forget that no matter what mental problems we have - we should always be held accountable. If the person is a danger to others - they should be locked up at the least.

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