DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY HE WAS EXCOMMUNICATED
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Alan Young
radudca — 18 years ago(October 25, 2007 05:51 AM)
from the Christian Science Church? Was an executive, and spokesman for them, not sure if he was a lecturer, was a member with his wife at the church in Corona Del Mar(Newport Beach) and then went to Boston, to the mother church. Met him in a restaurant and spoke with him briefly, you could tell he had a special centered and spiritual quality about himHe looked you in the eye and spoke from the heart. I am and always will be a fan of his, a superb actor. I am not trying to start an unfounded rumor here, or dissing this man. Just curious that a spiritual and decent man would find himself in a chapter that probably was a personal sadness and great concern for him. Let's hope we see him again on TV or in the movies, it will delight his many fans of which I am a most loyal one.
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radudca — 18 years ago(November 07, 2007 11:48 PM)
I know someone who works for the church at headquarters in Boston and I was told that. It is because of a book he chose to publish about the church and his disagreement with their philosophy. It is common knowledge now, and I assure you I wouldnt make a comment unless I was sure it was true.I even did some checking before I posted it. It does not detract from his great character and talent. In fact it shows his firm commitment to the truth. The book is sold at Amazon.com and I believe on his web site.
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WhWm — 18 years ago(November 18, 2007 06:08 PM)
I own autographed copies of Alans three books and the impression that was left with us was that he left the Christian Science church voluntarily. Excommunication is a serious penalty and a seldom used punishment.
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radudca — 18 years ago(November 20, 2007 05:41 AM)
I do not know. alobster777does it matter? I am not trying to do a muckracking job on Alan Young. Why would you think he would have to do something heinous? Church difficulties happen in all religions, excommunication means that he is removed from membership by the church. That is all that it means. Alan is a stand-up guy and he leads, I am sure, an exemplary life. Thank you.
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WhWm — 18 years ago(February 19, 2008 10:58 PM)
hossrex:
I decided not to waste time and respond to radudca because I can't feature anyone viewing excommunication as some sort of church "misdemeanor."
In addition, excommunication rarely EVER happens. I have not read anywhere that Alan Young was excommunicated, but, he may have been. In MISTER ED AND ME, he says:
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As a longtime student of Christian Science, I decided to work in the pure atmosphere of religion. Little did I know!
If I had studied the lives of independent religionists a little more, I would have seen that there's only one thing more brutal than throwing a Christian to the lions, and that's throwing a lion to the Christians.
It would be easy for me to launch into a sermon on spiritual values here, but suffice to say that after seven years of firsthand experience in church affairs, I became sadly disillusioned.
Maybe I was too ide111calistic when I became involved in the affairs of an organized church with such zeal. That's why my gradual realization that organized religion dwells so much on the acquisition of bureaucratic power and money, that the teachings of the Good Book tend to get overshadowed, made me feel very uncomfortable.
I don't mean to suggest evil intent here. It just turns out that way. Like a pregnant woman, bureaucracy is going to grow bigger no matter what. And religion's bureaucracy is no different.
In the eyes of the church hierarchy, I was an intruder, maybe even a threat. I guess I was rocking the boat and just wouldn't sit down.
Not that my efforts to help make a difference were ever taken seriously. I'll never forget when one of my church's respected members of the hierarchy said to me, "It's good to have you here with us in Boston, Alan. Every court needs its jester."
He did to me what no heckler in all of my show-business experience had ever done: he left me speechless. I realized that it wasn't his fault. He knew only what he had been raised with and was doing the best he could. I was the intruder.
If you know you have done your best and have nothing else to offer, then don't overstay your welcome. And don't try to force your opinions and theories against overwhelming resistance.
It's best to fold your tent quietly and take off.
So I took off.
I had learned a lesson. That which I believed, I believe still. And still try to practice and live those truths effectively and unobtrusively."
As you can see, it doesn't sound to me like Alan was excommunicated. But IF he was, I would place my dibs on Alan being right, and Boston being WRONG! -
radudca — 18 years ago(February 21, 2008 06:06 AM)
Well, your at it again Alobster777, and here is your recent quote
"I decided not to waste time and respond to radudca because I can't feature anyone viewing excommunication as some sort of church "misdemeanor." End of quote.
Well I guess I will spend the time responding, and isnt your recent response as above to my posts a response to me? I believe it isit is a 5b4response to me.
Removal from church membership by the Christian Science Church is never publicised. Why would they bring to the fore whatever the issue is or was. It isnt done in any church that I know of.
Yes, I am familiar with the book, I own a copy also I know the quotes as well. I have also met Alan and his lovely wife after a church service at the Corona Del Mar branch church in Newport beach. Friendly, congenial, a credit as Christians to this way of life. I am sure they currently practice the Christian way of life at home and in their dealings with the public, whether or not they ever set foot inside a church again.
I did not realize my original post would cause such consternation for you Alobster. We have a chain of responses here which is contrary to the form of IMDB. They refer to it as a chain letter. If we cant put this to rest here, the best thing I can do is not respond anymore and/or remove my original and later posts , which leaves you no soap box to stand on. I respect what you say, you have a right to say it and I have a right to post my thought, however beating a dead horse never works. Especially for the horse! The reason I originated the first post was I have friends that worked for the mother church in Boston and for their international newspaperThe Christian Science Monitor. They talked about the irresponsible way Alan Young and his wife were treated while Alan worked for 16d0the church. And mentioned to me that he was, I too hate to use that wordexcommunicated. They were not privy to any details.
So there ya go Alobster, my original question caused you untold grief and for that I am sorry. The other responses to my post were less bombastic so obviously I offended you. The question I think is, how did Alan handle his confrontation with that brand of organized religion? If those wanting to learn more would read his book they would know he did so with Christian dignity and resolute humbleness. It is the churches great loss not Alan Young's.That is one thing you and I agree on. I intend to put this whole thing to rest, but certainly won't advise or implore you to do the same. Progress is born of experience. RADUDCA -
WhWm — 18 years ago(March 05, 2008 06:24 PM)
My response was obviously to hossrex, not to you.
Your aimless ranting is senseless. Hossrex and I have tried (in vain) to inform you that excommunication specifically requires a heinous crime against the church. But you refuse to acknowledge that and continue to put faith in information based on "someone" that tells you Alan Young was excommunicated from the Christian Science Church (which would require, at least from the church point of view, that is) heinous behavior.
Alan Young's website has an email address and this is their answer:
"Hi, all I can tell you is that Alan was not excommunicated from the Church, despite what you may have heard.
Thank you."
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serval26 — 18 years ago(March 28, 2008 03:45 AM)
No offense radudca, but what you "heard" in Boston was probably rumors. It sounds to meb68 like he obviously left the church but they're bitter about it- especially because he wrote a book- and now it's turned into "he was excommunicated".
You say you have his book and has read his book and in his book he clearly states what he did, so you're obviously coming to this board looking for gossip. So immoral
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WeatherViolet — 13 years ago(September 06, 2012 07:19 AM)
Either that, or else he was caught shaking hands with a Democrat.
Those cults like CS really do look down upon the Godly and the righteous and virtuous, as well as talking horses and ducks and wearing royal blue articles of clothing on election day.