I don't understand her.
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Demi Lovato
captains_log — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 11:45 AM)
Hello whomever is reading this. I don't know how many Lovatics are on this board, but please don't accuse me of being a troll. I just want to state my honest opinion since Lovato has been in the news recently, and try to have a reasonable discussion if possible.
So here's the thing: Don't get me wrong when I say this, but I don't understand why this talented girl wants people to remember her as a mentally unstable young adult.
I'll admit, she is a better singer than most of the wanna-be singers out there (Selena Gomez comes to mind), but whenever she's in the media saying, "Such and such happened in my life", it makes me wonder if she is really telling the truth or if her antics are nothing but a PR stunt.
I'll watch her in an interview, like her recent appearance on
The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson
, where she talks about how she wants to be a positive role model for young girls because she knows they look up to her. But then I suddenly hear in the news that the same girl who wants to be seen as a positive role model claims to have smuggled drugs in airports. With stories like this, I just want to scratch my head and think, "WTF?"
I just don't understand why she thinks her fans (and just about everyone and their uncle) needs to hear about this crap. I get it - she's gone through some horrible beep that nobody should have to suffer with. But sometimes, too much is too much. I feel like every time she talks about her past, she only puts her image in a negative light and it isn't helping her. I'm not suggesting that she should act like a perfect Hollywood Scarlett for now on; instead, I'm saying that if her recent stories (like smuggling cocaine in an airport) are not true, then she should cut it out and find a healthy way to deal with her problems and move on with her life. IMO, if her stories are not true, then she's really doing her fans a disservice.
Okay, that's the end of my rant for now. What do you guys think? Am I'm right or wrong?
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ofuoku71 — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 01:32 PM)
This is exactly why I lost respect for her. All she does is whine and talk about her past just to make herself look like a victim. She does it deliberately and claims to want to be a role model to her fans. It's okay to share things like that about your past, but she is clearly overdoing it and for the wrong reasons. She is making herself look desperate and a complete hypocrite.
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Great_Gazoo — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 06:31 PM)
All of this plus I think she's just starved for more and more attention. Playing the victim card is her way to get everyone's sympathy.
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flluffeh_teddeh — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 07:37 PM)
I came to her IMDB page message board to see if anyone else felt this way, too haha I'm glad to see I'm not the only one. I think she is fame seeking, and possibly even making up some stories or expanding on the truth. I never really followed her so idk, but all of these stories came up out of nowhere for me and she just keeps releasing more and more details every day. It just seems like she released one sob story, liked all the attention she got, and so is releasing more and more garbage. I dunno lol over it, onto the next
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RemiRoyer33 — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 10:10 PM)
No, she isn't making up anything, she was a severe drug addict for several YEARS but the idiot fans here continued to deny, deny, and more deny, they denied that she had EVER used drugs. I was called a liar here for years for believing in so-called "gossip" and "rumors" that Demi was a drug adddict. Well guess what? Gossip is often TRUE and rumors are often TRUE also. Deal with it. You people were WRONG and I was right. You owe me an apology.
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captains_log — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 10:24 PM)
I'm not a fan of Demi, but I'm also not denying her drug use either. I'm just saying I don't know whether to believe her or not because, to me, it seems like she's fabricating her story to the point of absurdity.
However, I am sorry you were called a liar by her loyal fans.
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jnorgle — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 05:09 PM)
I don't think I know enough about what, why and how Demi's going about this drug stuff. Hollywoodyou never know WHAT is a smoke screen, hard truth
BTW, your signatureI love that line lol. Hope you've seen the youtube videoswhere it is said over, and over, and over in dialogue
Pretend something pithy is here.
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captains_log — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 10:39 PM)
I honestly don't think anybody on here knows when it comes to her personal life and her drug use. All I know is that the more I hear about it in the media, the sadder it makes me.
Oh yeah, I have seen those YouTube videos of my signature! I laugh whenever Dr. Crusher asks Picard, "Shut up Wesley?", and then she repeats the line too when her son starts talking.
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ambeezy21 — 12 years ago(December 15, 2013 12:53 PM)
Because of her family history of alcohol abuse she had a greater chance of becoming an addict. Anyone can say, "so and so lost everything over drugs. I'll never be like that" but it doesn't mean they'll always stick to it. She claims she was depressed growing up, was bullied, had an eating disorder and was a cutter. She had a lot of sh!t going on and she probably turned to drugs as a way to escape all thateven if it was just temporary.
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principesse — 12 years ago(December 12, 2013 03:19 PM)
I believe her, I remember the cuts on her wrists and the raspy voice caused by the bulimia. I actually really feel for Demi, she became the "breadwinner" for her family at quite an early age and even bought them a house at the age of 18 and that gave her a lot of leverage against her parents. She once said that, since she was paying the bills, she refused punishment like being grounded and so. I feel for her because, from what we know, her parents seem to be pushovers and no one intervened early enough to give her a smack on the head and set her on the right path, before things completely spiraled out of control. They only intervened after things had gone way out of control. If she had been my daughter, I wouldn't have cared how much money she was making, she would NOT be dating that preying, enabling crackhead Wilmer at 17 and I would have tried to keep my eyes open and protb68ect her from all that Hollywood crap. I would have worked hard to provide for my kids and let them enjoy childhood rather than pay the bills. I am not dissing on her family, they seem like nice people, it's just that I feel they should have been more alert and looked out for her wellbeing. She started cutting as a kid andhow could you not realize your daughter was drinking and doing drugs (both of which she started doing as a minor as well?)
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sophisticated_youngone — 12 years ago(December 14, 2013 06:25 PM)
I didn't realize that wilmer was a crackhead, I had Demi and him have been on and off since she was 18. I'm confused whether or not he was a bad influence in her and life and if so, why does she still keep in around? Apparenty they are dating again.
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principesse — 12 years ago(December 15, 2013 04:29 AM)
He has been a terrible, terrible influence. If blind gossip is correct, he pressures her into doing drugs and drinking every time she gets sober. She really wants to be healthy but he is holding her back. He treats her terribly and calls her fat
He once walked away and left crying at a restaurant, with no money, credit cards or car. He made her write the encouraging tweet in response to Joe Jonas , even though she was furious and hurt. He is bad, bad news. He constantly threatens to leave her and berates everything about her from her hair, to her clothes. I was shocked to see on his twitter that he spoke at some sort of inspirational event while there is nothing inspirational or respectable about him, he is addicted to cocaine, heroin and alcohol and has gotten so many girls hooked onto them.
She needs to walk away but I guess she doesn't realize how amazing and beautiful she is and how no woman should ever, ever put up with such treatment no matter what. Nobody deserves this. He is extremely manipulative and knows how to throw her crumbs of attention and she is vulnerable and needs to feel loved, I think.
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captains_log — 12 years ago(December 16, 2013 12:07 AM)
He has been a terrible, terrible influence. If blind gossip is correct, he pressures her into doing drugs and drinking every time she gets sober. She really wants to be healthy but he is holding her back. He treats her terribly and calls her fat
He once walked away and left crying at a restaurant, with no money, credit cards or car. He made her write the encouraging tweet in response to Joe Jonas , even though she was furious and hurt. He is bad, bad news. He constantly threatens to leave her and berates everything about her from her hair, to her clothes.
Do you got a source or two to prove this? I normally don't trust blind gossip.
I agree with mactach, but I also think there's a mixture of things affecting her life. Part of it is that she is holding herself back by choosing to hang around people like Wilmer Valderrama. Considering he's addicted to cocaine, I would think she sends her fans mixed messages by dating him while preaching her views on partda0ying and drugs. Of course, I agree with you that she should get rid of him altogether since that qualifies as a passive-aggressive relationship and she doesn't even have to be near him in the first place, but that's easier said than done.
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principesse — 12 years ago(December 16, 2013 05:10 AM)
I don't have any other sources, but blind gossip has been right too many times, so I believe them on this. The way they posted it, it wasn't about dishing out juicy gossip or anything like that, they were actually very concerned for Demi and wanted people to leave her advice in the comments because she reads BG (which has been proven before, as she has angrily commented about them on twitter in the past). BG said they care about Demi and are trying to help her realize that Wilmer's behavior is unacceptable.
Regardless of anything, that guy is bad news and it sucks to see anyone in an abusive or at the very least opportunistic relationship. This happens to so many beautiful and smart women and you wish you could help each and every one of them open her eyes and see the truth about the slime ball she is dating and have the strength to leave because, sooner or later, the truth does sink in at some point, usually after too many wasted years and a lot of pain and baggage. Demi said that when it came to the drugs and alcohol (which I really hope she did stop), she didn't want to listen to anyone or take any advice, she had to discover for herse5b4lf that she hit rock bottom and was putting her life at risk. I think this also goes for that relationship, she is in denial about his behavior and he knows how to manipulate her and talk his way out of anything. I think she also feels like people are being judgmental and she knows him best, but don't all women in abusive relationships (whether physically, verbally or emotionally) feel that way? I just hope she listens to people's advice and finds the strength to walk away immediately and not look back. She has the right to date anyone and do whatever she wants with her life, of course, but as a woman, I just feel so bad for her with everything she has gone through and would hate to see her settle for a relationship where she is constantly being hurt, berated, pressured into using or taken advantage of. She has just been through so much and I think any girl can relate. -
mactach — 12 years ago(December 17, 2013 01:24 PM)
I've never gotten the impression she wants people to remember her as you describe it.
I've seen interviews on Youtube where she's simply saying that how she dealt with her depression or choosing to do dumb things that so many famous people have done was wrong and regrets it.
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racheljclear — 12 years ago(December 20, 2013 01:24 AM)
No one speaks about depression, or self harm or drugs these days. so by her doing it, it's doing good for everyone she's putting her self out there, trying to help others who are going through the same thing she did, so her talking about it could be saving someone's life, so shut the beep up.
