I think Gordon should be ashame of himself for behaving like he does.
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tedoskar96 — 14 years ago(September 13, 2011 06:52 AM)
You got it all wrong, it's a part of his style sort of to bullox people.
Also it seems like you are a bit jealous cause of him being sucessful.
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aDingoEttMyBaby — 14 years ago(September 28, 2011 12:40 AM)
Last I checked, he was swearing and screaming at real people in real life, except with a camera on them. So why hasn't he gotten his ass kicked, as you say?
Or maybe he has had his ass kicked (or attempted kicking) but he's still out there. I think that makes his a better man to stand by his high standards.
Peons are afraid of high standards. And maybe only peons would wait for the cameras to turn off before swinging? That's cowardly, right?
By the way one of his imdb quotes is about 9 times out of 10 it's the other guy who swings first, so I highly doubt your cliche "anonymous big boy" comments, and would bank on his being confident to hold his own if fists start flying.
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Kompressor_Fan — 10 years ago(February 04, 2016 08:59 AM)
You don't have to abuse people to get work of a high standard out of them. The best bosses inspire their employees, instead of abusing them. You may like his tirades on TV, but I bet you would not put up with this kind of treatment in real life in your place of employment.
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SALTER-pt — 14 years ago(October 05, 2011 06:47 PM)
Gordon cut his teeth at Harvey's under the notoriously volatile MPW, and clearly picked up the SAS habits that he claimed to despise. He has some nerve to talk depreciatively of Marco when, in fact, he conducted himself exactly the same way in getting to the top at Royal Hospital Road; although at the end of the day it's a hostility borne out of jealousy, and the fact that he never reached the heights of creativity and artistry of his mentor. He is an outstanding hypocrite, though.
The differece between the two is Marco grew up. Gordon never has, and probably never will. He's a very good cook and a savvy businessman. He worked hard for his success and I don't begrudge him it. But he's a lousy human being.
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ArizonaKnightWolf — 14 years ago(February 15, 2012 06:06 PM)
Tappler, you have obvisouly never worked in a busy resturant kitchen. It can be very chaotic and tempers can flare really easy. A good chef has to take charge and get things done right, and quickly. Ramsey comes across as an arrogant bastard because, well, most chefs are when they are running a kitchen. Most of the time, they have to be. A kitchen needs to be like a well oiled machine, and more often than not it isn't. Ramsey yells to make people listen to him, because HE KNOWS WHAT HE DOING AND HE IS IN CHARGE!!
Intellect and Romance Triumph Over Brute Force and Cynicism
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tappler24 — 13 years ago(October 03, 2012 09:51 PM)
Maybe things would get done correctly if he kept his mouth shut so people could think for themselves instead of making endless mistakes. Nobody is going to be able to perform correctly in a stressful environment. People like Gordon make things harder than what it really is. I wouldn't last ten minutes with this guy I would tell him to do it himself if he expects perfection. Nobody wants to listen to a grump especially at a job that they have to be at everyday.
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palmercin — 12 years ago(June 09, 2013 07:23 AM)
A lot of chefs act like jerks yell scream etc
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ShyLivesMatter — 12 years ago(September 21, 2013 03:31 PM)
Yeah, he's a bit of a dick. I've recently stumbled across his Kitchen Nightmares show (my TV's main channel is currently set on BBC America as I've been DVR'ing Doctor Who episodes). Watched a bit of it. Enough to know that I find him extremely unlikeable. Though I have to admit (begrudgingly) that his method seems to work.
I guess I have deep seated issues regarding people, especially guys, with that type of personality (Alpha Dog, screaming, domineering, verbal abuse, etc). So I'm definitely not saying I'm perfect (no American arrogance here), but yeah, I mostly find that personality really off-putting and ridiculous. People that throw words around like "p_ussy" derogatorily just seem like 12 year olds (no offense to cool 12 year olds lol) or judgmental, overcompensating dicks. Though others (lots of guys and some women) see it as "being a man" or "manning up", that whole tough, macho guy thing, so go figure. Different strokes and ideas of what it means to be a man, I guess.
Guess it goes back to my Dad, not sure, he was mostly really gentle and loving, the ideal Dad, but he also had a pretty scary temper and I was a super sensitive kid, so probably. I've heard Ramsay had "Dad issues&qb68uot; as well, only he dealt with it by becoming tough, a perfectionist, and a workaholic, while I dealt by becoming more introverted, anxious, pacifist, am just happy getting by, and believe there's more to who I am as a person than a job title. Hey, we all deal in our own ways - nobody's perfect, right?
Whatever gets you through, as long as its not hurting others, that's what I believeso yeah, I'm definitely a far cry from Ramsay (and I'm perfectly fine with that, thank you very much).
But yeah, I don't respond well to that kind of abrasive personality AT ALL. At my old job, they kept pushing me to be a supervisor/boss and I kept saying "but I'm not an a_sshole lol Seriously though, its a lot of pressure and expectations to live up to. Its not for everyone. They couldn't appreciate the talents I did have (and I do feel I have a lot to offer the world in my own wayso I left - wasn't worth the stress and soul-killing nature of the work). So I can relate to failing to please higher-ups in a business, so I do have a lot of empathy for the people he berates on the show. So no, not everyone has his personality (nor should they). Nor does everyone have the right temperament to work in a kitchen - I do agree with those saying that. People should know their limitations. Apparently I'm one of the few that does if imdb is any indication. I hope the people that couldn't "hack it" on the show do find their calling - I'm still searching as well
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ivesMatter — 12 years ago(September 21, 2013 03:33 PM)But I do know its a successful personality to have, especially for TV shows, since our culture currently worships a_ssholes. No one has any empathy anymore. Things like being "nice" or "sensitive" are seen as bad and as being "weak". I see them as quirks, as being human, certainly no worse than being a dick, but everyone's a Social Darwinist, I guess. Feels like the Serengeti every time I go online lol I like to call it the Call Of Duty Generation, where everyone thinks they're a badass/hardass (especially on the internet lol) and they just like to judge others, with no self awareness of their own flaws. I guess that's why people and movie characters like Ramsay's personality are forgiven as they defend him by saying "I prefer flawed characters or flawed human beings - no one's perfect", yet those same people think he's right to abuse others for ineptness. Wait, I thought nobody's perfect? So what's wrong with being a bit inept?
So it seems they want to have it both ways. Seems a bit hypocritical IMO. Like the one poster saying we should be more loving and less hateful in terms of racism (I agree), but then also defending Ramsay's ways. Why not more loving and tolerant across the board? Why not holding a_ssholes accountable? I've noticed that across imdb as a whole, people mostly only find like perfect, super rational, super heroic characters likeable (which makes the posters unlikeable IMO lol). Not much self awareness going around. But yeah, I guess people will defend what they like or find acceptable and, like I said, our culture worships success. And a_ssholes (and perfectionistsand workaholics). Just don't expect me to stoop to that.
Ok, now I feel better after venting that (until I randomly stumble on the show again lol) Sorry for the novel, its just I don't post much, so when I do find the time, a lot of stuff gets built up. Sometimes it gets so long I don't even post O_O Unfortunately for you, this one's still (relatively) short At least I was nice enough to split itcurse of being a nice guy, eh? I'm sure some will see it as whining (so predictable, you internet tough guys are!). I'm really not a bitter guy, though, no hardened cynic like so many my age seem to beI still have a good heart, still young at heart, and am mostly hopeful
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ShyLivesMatter — 12 years ago(September 21, 2013 03:34 PM)
Oh, and he seems to have the same personality as that Bar Rescue guy (stumbled on that show, too) as well. And countless other reality TV guys/shows, I'm sure. So it is a successful TV formulaeb68r, personality
I'm not denying that. I'm just saying I think its wrong for everyone to aspire to (or feel pressured that they should aspire to) that personality or to try and appease someone with that personality. His personality (which you all admire) is "I don't care what you think?" Well, if that's true, then its ok to not care what people like him (or any internet douche) think
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ShyLivesMatter — 12 years ago(September 21, 2013 03:56 PM)
Speaking of predictable (and I do know my typical imdb poster, so I guess I'm a little jaded), bet I can guess what the next post in this thread will be. Hint: Its i5b4n relation to the thread title. Won't be around to read it, though (been burned like a $5 steak on here too many times, so I learned my lesson years ago and YOUR arrogance is unchanged, stereo-typical imdb poster). I've spoken my mind and had my fun. Life's too short to hang around here too much or get worked up over negative vibes. So it won't have any more power over me than Ramsay doesand I've learned to steer far clear of his kitchens
But hey, I'm sure whatever $5 steak genius posts it will feel cool and tough, so knock yourselves outpreferably with a skillet
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silvercometred1 — 11 years ago(January 24, 2015 12:57 AM)
My son is a professional chef and he hates Ramsay. He said no true professional chef would act like that.
I keep waiting for Ramsay to go off on somebody and that person serves Ramsay a fist sandwich!