With regard to their considerable respective hauls of Award wins and nominations:
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SarahBryantfan — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 06:54 PM)
I have maintained for about ten years now that Dakota paid a price for her controversial role in the Hounddog film. Sadly, I really believe that she got fewer good offers as a result of doing the film. I have yet to find a poster on IMDb that concurs with my thesis, but I stand by my claim. Having said this, I absolutely adore both of these actresses.
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purple_lemon — 9 years ago(October 12, 2016 07:57 PM)
Interesting. Yes it was certainly a controversial role (but a good and bold performance) for such a young actress. And Hollywood does like to present a wholesome face to the world, whatever the reality is behind the scenes. You might well be right.
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purple_lemon — 9 years ago(October 12, 2016 07:53 PM)
In my opinion Saoirse hasn't really given a great adult performance yet either. But in part, like Dakota, that is dependent on her landing a great role in a great film, and that is easier said than done.
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Steve7216 — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 05:04 PM)
Part of the reason why critics were frankly incredibly effusive in their praise was her subtleness and restraint in showing us (the audience) exactly what emotional state she happened to be in and what her character was thinking at any given time. She of course had her chances to emote strongly during certain scenes, but her work was IMO understated but just beautiful.
There were so many striking scenes: when Eilis was walking to meet the priest in her yellow dress is one example. Just the manner in which she walks and the look on her face shows us how drastically this young woman has changed as compared to a bit earlier in the film when she was so homesick and melancholy. She's so convincing in conveying the transition.
I loved the scene where she is slowly walking through her room and observing everything as her character has finished packing in anticipation of her trip back to America. She doesn't have one word of dialogue, but it's heartbreaking nonetheless.
When Saoirse was being introduced by actor Paul Dano at The Palm Springs Film Festival, he specifically mentioned the early scene when her friend accepts a dance with a young man and the camera just gets close to her face while she looks around the dancehall knowing it may be the last time she is ever in her homeland. It's a masterclass in patient and subtle acting because Saoirse's able to let us clearly understand exactly what is going through her mind without one word. I could probably write about literally every scene she appears in, but suffice to say I believe it was a knockout performance. -
purple_lemon — 9 years ago(October 15, 2016 04:36 AM)
I was underwhelmed by 'Brooklyn' on my first viewing but warmed to it considerably on my second viewing. Though I still had the same problem understanding why Eilish didn't say that she was married when she returned to Ireland.
Perhaps I was expecting too much on my first viewing after all the hype the film had received. Anyway on my second viewing that initial disappointment was gone and I found myself appreciating the film much more.
The first half of the film is really very good and Saoirse is lovely in the role. But she comes a little unstuck in the second half I think when what she is doing doesn't really make sense. That isn't Saoirse's fault it's just the way the character was written. In order for the film to have the necessary drama Eilish had to have this conflict about which man she would choose.
But the difficulty is that Eilish was such an honest and good girl that what she did (by keeping her marriage a secret and dallying with Jim) just seemed completely out of character. The only way Saoirse seemed to be able to work with that was by acting as though Eilish was confused. And that made her seem a bit feeble minded, which she hadn't been prior to returning to Ireland.
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cadelano — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 08:10 PM)
So. The Fanning sisters are on their way to becoming great actresses, though I've heard some rumours that their parents were rather stagey, they never became a hindrance on their careers. Dakota attended Columbia, they seem well adjusted and concerned about their crafts (though I find Elle's "Lolita"-like vibe and role selection tiring). The difference is that, even though they both have left behind the "child actress" phase, they are still in their starlet phase, they are still considered in the industry in the "they have a lot of potential" category. Saoirse is way past that, she already is considered a major. I think this tweet defines ir pretty well:
https://twitter.com/joshrothkopf/status/784926227446452224
Saoirse is the standard now,238 which means that her peers are not the Steinfelds, Fannings or Grace Moretz, She shares a category with Cate Blanchett, Viola Davis, Jennifer Lawrence, Julianne Moore, etc. She is only the youngest one in the group.
All of the above is only in industry terms, her stance with producers, directors, screenwriters and fellow actors. Certainly Saoirse is only half as recognizable as Elle Fanning or Hailee Steinfeld in objective terms. But an artistic career is a marathon, not a sprint, and Sersh seems to know this pretty well, much better than her age coun5b4terparts. She's only going to be more selective, her age peers are still working on that. -
Steve7216 — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 09:19 PM)
Wow, thanks for posting about that tweet cadelano. It's a wonderful compliment from a film critic.
I've mentioned more than once here about the impressive and deep talent we currently have with young film actresses. I need to see Seinfeld doing more complex material, but she's been fine in roles performed in what I consider lesser films. Of course, she did have a plum role in True Grit, and I felt her performance was very good.
I think Elle is going to be a star, but that's not really a stretch to hold such an opinion.
She showed terrific range in "Ginger & Rosa" and has been doing fine work in her other roles regardless of the genre of film. She seems like a natural to me, an actress with presence and charisma to boot. I need to see more of Dakota. Just the other day, I watched the trailer for "American Pastoral" at the cinema. This parts looks like to could be an important one for her.