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lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(July 11, 2021 02:16 AM)
cryptoflovecraft said...
it is ok. there's nothing wrong with fucking a horse if you're a girl i mean it doesn't say in the bible oh don't fuck a horse so if god is ok with it i am too. now watching a porn of it?…
The Bible doesn't say pedophilia and necrophilia are wrong either but I'm pretty sure that they are. And who cares what The Bible says anyway (unless you're a Bible-thumping weirdo)? Do you really believe Noah built an ark and had two of every kind of animal on it? Do you really believe that in the beginning there was a Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve and a snake? Hmm. What about the dinosaurs that predated humanity? Where do they fit into Biblical history? That's right, they're never mentioned in it. The Bible is a collection of contradictory ideas, dubious historical accounts and Jewish fairy tales. While there are some decent moral lessons in it, I'll pass on believing that it's the inerrant word of God or that it's anything more than a collection of fables.
who knows if the 17 yr old wanted it or not? we know! bc they put the story out on the internet she got in trouble for it legally so yes we know he was raped by her.
No, we don't know the full truth. He had something to gain from it ($380,000, I believe, settled out of court). This "kid" is a money-grubber who got the best lay of his life. The lucky bastard. I don't feel bad for him…. at….all.
there is nothing wrong with a girl having sex with a horse or a dog. do you think a dog or a horse feels pain from this?
Bad trolling, btw… if that's what it is.
but is the director just doing it to entertain as a cheap thrill at the expense of the girl getting degraded on film or does he care bout the issue of women's rights in america and the world is this an empowering movie for women?
I think it's like Cannibal Holocaust in that it pretends to be a 'message' film but it's really just exploitation.
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lol double lol. dude your brutal attack on the believability and validity of the bible is hilarious in that huge paragraph. by the way dinosaurs are in the bible my sister told me that, they just aren't called dinosaurs, they are described as huge creatures or something.
the contradicting part so the bible i hate though. the whole belief in
Christianity can really be summed up in one book that is about 1600 pages long?
i hate how a respectable man of god is described as having 10 wives and using girls for children only, not loving them exclusively.
you contradicted yourself. first you said you are against rape 100% then you said you would love getting raped by asia argento. that doesn't make sense bc you can't enjoy being raped when you know it's ethically wrong to everyone bc it is a violation of a human's right, it's forcing them to have sex and going against what they want.
so it's ethically wrong to you getting raped, its taking advantage of you.
what do yo mean it was a money grab? how can he claim he was raped just to get money. i cant' believe this bc i've never heard of a man who claims he was raped for money only.
so he sued her for 380,000 dollars claiming she raped him but she didnt'? why on earth would a man do this? it makes him look so ****ing weak, so weak that we've never heard of this happening in any other case.
first of all how could he know that he would get paid this much money if he wins? secondly how could he know that he'd win this case if he wasn't raped? you know how hard it would be to prove he was raped if he wasn't? i mean there is a reason why a lot more girls are raped than men.
it's bc men want sex a hell of a lot more than girls, and with a hell of a lot more girls than girls want to have sex with different guys, and a hell of a lot more often and more times than girls do.
most guys who are on a date with a girl, every time they are on a date with a girl want to have sex with them instantly, as soon as they see them on the date, unless it's a blind date. whereas girls are a lot more selective on who they want to have sex with and who they have sex with.
but why did he sue her? was it a bad relationship, gone bad for him so he then wanted to screw her in court not literally but financially?
**** you, you know it's me, don't say bad trolling, i'm a human being, i deserve respect from you. trolling is what bad people and dumb people do.
dogs and horse don't feel pain from ****ing a girl so tis totally fine to **** a horse if you are a girl. a lot of girls like having their pussy licked by a dog by putting like peanut butter on their pussy. who are we to judge them for doing this? and who are we to condemn their behavior?
i love it cannibal holocaust and i spit on our grave. both films to me seem like very similar films in what happens in them and the messages that they have.
they stretch the boundaries of good taste in different ways than each other. but deep down they are extreme horror films that shock a lot of people.
no i read online that meir zarchi cares about the messages that i spit on your grave has. the is -
cryptoflovecraft — 4 years ago(July 15, 2021 04:17 PM)
lukejbarnett said...
lol double lol. dude your brutal attack on the believability and validity of the bible is hilarious in that huge paragraph. by the way dinosaurs are in the bible my sister told me that, they just aren't called dinosaurs, they are described as huge creatures or something.
the contradicting part so the bible i hate though. the whole belief in
Christianity can really be summed up in one book that is about 1600 pages long?
i hate how a respectable man of god is described as having 10 wives and using girls for children only, not loving them exclusively.
you contradicted yourself. first you said you are against rape 100% then you said you would love getting raped by asia argento. that doesn't make sense bc you can't enjoy being raped when you know it's ethically wrong to everyone bc it is a violation of a human's right, it's forcing them to have sex and going against what they want.
so it's ethically wrong to you getting raped, its taking advantage of you.
what do yo mean it was a money grab? how can he claim he was raped just to get money. i cant' believe this bc i've never heard of a man who claims he was raped for money only.
so he sued her for 380,000 dollars claiming she raped him but she didnt'? why on earth would a man do this? it makes him look so fucking weak, so weak that we've never heard of this happening in any other case.
first of all how could he know that he would get paid this much money if he wins? secondly how could he know that he'd win this case if he wasn't raped? you know how hard it would be to prove he was raped if he wasn't? i mean there is a reason why a lot more girls are raped than men.
it's bc men want sex a hell of a lot more than girls, and with a hell of a lot more girls than girls want to have sex with different guys, and a hell of a lot more often and more times than girls do.
most guys who are on a date with a girl, every time they are on a date with a girl want to have sex with them instantly, as soon as they see them on the date, unless it's a blind date. whereas girls are a lot more selective on who they want to have sex with and who they have sex with.
but why did he sue her? was it a bad relationship, gone bad for him so he then wanted to screw her in court not literally but financially?
fuck you, you know it's me, don't say bad trolling, i'm a human being, i deserve respect from you. trolling is what bad people and dumb people do.
dogs and horse don't feel pain from fucking a girl so tis totally fine to fuck a horse if you are a girl. a lot of girls like having their pussy licked by a dog by putting like peanut butter on their pussy. who are we to judge them for doing this? and who are we to condemn their behavior?
i love it cannibal holocaust and i spit on our grave. both films to me seem like very similar films in what happens in them and the messages that they have.
they stretch the boundaries of good taste in different ways than each other. but deep down they are extreme horror films that shock a lot of people.
no i read online that meir zarchi cares about the messages that i spit on your grave has. the issues of women's rights and such. cannibal holocaust's message is the american people filming the natives who raped the natives' girls were worse than the natives who killed them. so, do not film natives who don't want to be filmed, lol, just a joke.
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you contradicted yourself. first you said you are against rape 100% then you said you would love getting raped by asia argento. that doesn't make sense bc you can't enjoy being raped when you know it's ethically wrong to everyone bc it is a violation of a human's right, it's forcing them to have sex and going against what they want.
I'm against rape but if Asia Argento wanted to "rape" me (i.e., force herself on me sexually) I wouldn't object so it would be consensual and wouldn't really be rape.
i love it cannibal holocaust and i spit on our grave. both films to me seem like very similar films in what happens in them and the messages that they have.
Cannibal Holocaust is a great horror film but its "message" (it's wrong to exploit natives) seems disingenuous. The filmmakers cared so much about the indigenous people that they presented them in the most unflattering way (as primitive cannibals, nothing more), not to mention the horrible real animal killings that took place on the film set. Any moral posturing on the part of the filmmakers is laughable. That said, I still love that nasty little film. There's nothing else like it. It's relentlessly disturbing. -
lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(July 17, 2021 07:39 PM)
cryptoflovecraft said...
you contradicted yourself. first you said you are against rape 100% then you said you would love getting raped by asia argento. that doesn't make sense bc you can't enjoy being raped when you know it's ethically wrong to everyone bc it is a violation of a human's right, it's forcing them to have sex and going against what they want.
I'm against rape but if Asia Argento wanted to "rape" me (i.e., force herself on me sexually) I wouldn't object so it would be consensual and wouldn't really be rape.
i love it cannibal holocaust and i spit on our grave. both films to me seem like very similar films in what happens in them and the messages that they have.
Cannibal Holocaust is a great horror film but its "message" (it's wrong to exploit natives) seems disingenuous. The filmmakers cared so much about the indigenous people that they presented them in the most unflattering way (as primitive cannibals, nothing more), not to mention the horrible real animal killings that took place on the film set. Any moral posturing on the part of the filmmakers is laughable. That said, I still love that nasty little film. There's nothing else like it. It's relentlessly disturbing.
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forcing herself on you mean rape. i don't know why you are twisting this into rape is ok to you. you have to understand that if she forces herself on you that is rape.
there's no gray area here it is just you give consent you want to have sex then you have sex or you don't want to have sex and she rapes you, forcing someone to have sex is always rape. so you are ok with being raped oddly even though you said you are totally against rape. ??
i love how you said that nasty little film. i'm telling you there is no hold barred in this film. tis is brutal it is in your face it is sickening, they don't cut away, they just give you this unrelenting, brutal, nightmare and you're forced to sit through it all and be there the whole movie.
didnt you love how it's totally uncompromising?
uh huh relentlessly disturbing. does it sit atop your list of the most disturbing and hardest to sit through films of all time in your life? is it even the ultimate endurance test? the ultimate grueling, courage needed to watch the whole film ever made?
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cryptoflovecraft — 4 years ago(July 19, 2021 10:49 PM)
lukejbarnett said...
forcing herself on you mean rape. i don't know why you are twisting this into rape is ok to you. you have to understand that if she forces herself on you that is rape.
there's no gray area here it is just you give consent you want to have sex then you have sex or you don't want to have sex and she rapes you, forcing someone to have sex is always rape. so you are ok with being raped oddly even though you said you are totally against rape. ??
i love how you said that nasty little film. i'm telling you there is no hold barred in this film. tis is brutal it is in your face it is sickening, they don't cut away, they just give you this unrelenting, brutal, nightmare and you're forced to sit through it all and be there the whole movie.
didnt you love how it's totally uncompromising?
uh huh relentlessly disturbing. does it sit atop your list of the most disturbing and hardest to sit through films of all time in your life? is it even the ultimate endurance test? the ultimate grueling, courage needed to watch the whole film ever made?
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so you are ok with being raped oddly even though you said you are totally against rape. ??
No, but I'm OK with
a certain woman
forcing herself on me sexually.
love how you said that nasty little film. i'm telling you there is no hold barred in this film. tis is brutal it is in your face it is sickening, they don't cut away, they just give you this unrelenting, brutal, nightmare and you're forced to sit through it all and be there the whole movie.
didnt you love how it's totally uncompromising?
Yes, but I thought the real animal killings were totally unnecessary.
uh huh relentlessly disturbing. does it sit atop your list of the most disturbing and hardest to sit through films of all time in your life? is it even the ultimate endurance test? the ultimate grueling, courage needed to watch the whole film ever made?
I guess it is one of the most disturbing films I've ever seen. It's so raw and well made and ahead of its time (being one of the first 'found footage' films) that I enjoy revisiting it from time to time.
I recently watched a Cannibal Holocaust ripoff called Mondo Cannibal (2004) (aka Cannibal World and Cannibal Holocaust 2). The film was directed by the late Bruno Mattei (aka Vincent Dawn), who is best known for Hell of the Living Dead (1980) and Rats: Night of Terror (1984). Mattei's films are known for their cheesy style and hilariously bad dialogue (and notoriously bad dubbing); he was sort of the bottom of the barrel of 80's Italian horror directors but I still love most of the films I've seen by him. Hell of the Living Dead is an epic zombie apocalypse film (and Mattei's best film) even though it rips off Dawn of the Dead and Fulci's Zombie.
Anyway, I enjoyed Mondo Cannibal because it's what you'd expect from Bruno Mattei: no holds barred hilarity through and through and it completely rips off the plot of Cannibal Holocaust. The man had no shame!!! lol … Here's the trailer - and, yes, there's some frontal nudity in the film and the two chicks in it are uber hot. -
lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(July 21, 2021 12:42 AM)
cryptoflovecraft said...
so you are ok with being raped oddly even though you said you are totally against rape. ??
No, but I'm OK with
a certain woman
forcing herself on me sexually.
love how you said that nasty little film. i'm telling you there is no hold barred in this film. tis is brutal it is in your face it is sickening, they don't cut away, they just give you this unrelenting, brutal, nightmare and you're forced to sit through it all and be there the whole movie.
didnt you love how it's totally uncompromising?
Yes, but I thought the real animal killings were totally unnecessary.
uh huh relentlessly disturbing. does it sit atop your list of the most disturbing and hardest to sit through films of all time in your life? is it even the ultimate endurance test? the ultimate grueling, courage needed to watch the whole film ever made?
I guess it is one of the most disturbing films I've ever seen. It's so raw and well made and ahead of its time (being one of the first 'found footage' films) that I enjoy revisiting it from time to time.
I recently watched a Cannibal Holocaust ripoff called Mondo Cannibal (2004) (aka Cannibal World and Cannibal Holocaust 2). The film was directed by the late Bruno Mattei (aka Vincent Dawn), who is best known for Hell of the Living Dead (1980) and Rats: Night of Terror (1984). Mattei's films are known for their cheesy style and hilariously bad dialogue (and notoriously bad dubbing); he was sort of the bottom of the barrel of 80's Italian horror directors but I still love most of the films I've seen by him. Hell of the Living Dead is an epic zombie apocalypse film (and Mattei's best film) even though it rips off Dawn of the Dead and Fulci's Zombie.
Anyway, I enjoyed Mondo Cannibal because it's what you'd expect from Bruno Mattei: no holds barred hilarity through and through and it completely rips off the plot of Cannibal Holocaust. The man had no shame!!! lol … Here's the trailer - and, yes, there's some frontal nudity in the film and the two chicks in it are uber hot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXjAdhvWltk
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then you are not using the correct language to adequately explain what you mean about rape bc you keep saying you are ok with being raped by her but even that is wrong bc you are against anyone being raped and you are among everyone.
so you should have said you are ok with being talked into sex by her but not raped bc again, and again you used the word forced in this message that is incorrect bc forced implies you are raped bc you cant' force someone to do something they want to do already. and you are either wanting to have sex at a moment or not.
you imagine maybe that it's impossible to be raped by someone as beautiful and sexy as her but you are wrong bc anyone can rape any one else.
exactly found footage film. it is the first found footage horror film ever made, cannibal holocaust, made 19 years before the blair witch project. which makes it automatically an important film in film history even if it was a bad movie.
is is the litmus test as far as how much can you take film experience in your opinion? was it the hardest film to keep watching for you personally that you have ever watched?
huh, bruno mattei, a guy mentioned him one time when i was at his house watching an interview about the movie masscare in dinosaur valley which comes with my highest recommendation to you!
totally unnecessary? um it's film, nothing is off limits in film. the animal killings were a part of the film in a necessary way to show how the natives live in their home country, their habitat.
i'm sure the animals they killed the natives used after filming so it's not any different than what every country does when it comes to cows and other animals that we kill for their meat.
ok, why didn't you say it's one of the most disturbing films you've ever watched? is it a macho thing? like if you said it really disturbed you that you'd be a wimp or something? why can't you say it's one of the most disturbing film you've ever watched?
you said you guess it is, so why didn't you say it is?
i, from hearing the praise from this incredibly knowledgeable about films guy whom i watched that interview with about mattei, can't believe that he was a schlock film director. this guy praised him as an italian horror film director great among the best ever as far as Italian directors.
well, you didn't have to say the 2 chicks in it are hot bc i can see by the pic of the link you gave me that these 2 girls are incredibly hot, and beyond american girl hot.
if you want a thrill ride, comedy adventure, cannibal, horror epic festival for your eyes and senses you have to watch masscare in dinosaur valley. it is hilarious, some of the lines and actions that happen are some of the funniest things i've ever seen in a movie.
and it's an intelligently made, well made, and artful film. you have to watch it. and then the last part of the film becomes a film about survival for the american and his hot model girls in th -
cryptoflovecraft — 4 years ago(July 21, 2021 01:54 AM)
lukejbarnett said...
then you are not using the correct language to adequately explain what you mean about rape bc you keep saying you are ok with being raped by her but even that is wrong bc you are against anyone being raped and you are among everyone.
so you should have said you are ok with being talked into sex by her but not raped bc again, and again you used the word forced in this message that is incorrect bc forced implies you are raped bc you cant' force someone to do something they want to do already. and you are either wanting to have sex at a moment or not.
you imagine maybe that it's impossible to be raped by someone as beautiful and sexy as her but you are wrong bc anyone can rape any one else.
exactly found footage film. it is the first found footage horror film ever made, cannibal holocaust, made 19 years before the blair witch project. which makes it automatically an important film in film history even if it was a bad movie.
is is the litmus test as far as how much can you take film experience in your opinion? was it the hardest film to keep watching for you personally that you have ever watched?
huh, bruno mattei, a guy mentioned him one time when i was at his house watching an interview about the movie masscare in dinosaur valley which comes with my highest recommendation to you!
totally unnecessary? um it's film, nothing is off limits in film. the animal killings were a part of the film in a necessary way to show how the natives live in their home country, their habitat.
i'm sure the animals they killed the natives used after filming so it's not any different than what every country does when it comes to cows and other animals that we kill for their meat.
ok, why didn't you say it's one of the most disturbing films you've ever watched? is it a macho thing? like if you said it really disturbed you that you'd be a wimp or something? why can't you say it's one of the most disturbing film you've ever watched?
you said you guess it is, so why didn't you say it is?
i, from hearing the praise from this incredibly knowledgeable about films guy whom i watched that interview with about mattei, can't believe that he was a schlock film director. this guy praised him as an italian horror film director great among the best ever as far as Italian directors.
well, you didn't have to say the 2 chicks in it are hot bc i can see by the pic of the link you gave me that these 2 girls are incredibly hot, and beyond american girl hot.
if you want a thrill ride, comedy adventure, cannibal, horror epic festival for your eyes and senses you have to watch masscare in dinosaur valley. it is hilarious, some of the lines and actions that happen are some of the funniest things i've ever seen in a movie.
and it's an intelligently made, well made, and artful film. you have to watch it. and then the last part of the film becomes a film about survival for the american and his hot model girls in the jungle against all the cannibal natives.
when you described mattei's films it reminded me of a film director named joe d'amato. ever watched any of his films?
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then you are not using the correct language to adequately explain what you mean about rape bc you keep saying you are ok with being raped by her but even that is wrong bc you are against anyone being raped and you are among everyone.
so you should have said you are ok with being talked into sex by her but not raped bc again, and again you used the word forced in this message that is incorrect bc forced implies you are raped bc you cant' force someone to do something they want to do already. and you are either wanting to have sex at a moment or not.
you imagine maybe that it's impossible to be raped by someone as beautiful and sexy as her but you are wrong bc anyone can rape any one else.
No, she can rape me. I mean it!
She's the exception to the rule, OK?
was it the hardest film to keep watching for you personally that you have ever watched?
Irreversible (2002) was much worse. I have NO DESIRE to ever see that one again.
totally unnecessary? um it's film, nothing is off limits in film. the animal killings were a part of the film in a necessary way to show how the natives live in their home country, their habitat.
It was unnecessary and sadistic. It could've been done with special effects or using already dead animals. Some of the actors and crew walked off the set when Deodato (the director) did that ****. Deodato was a genius but also an asshole.
if you want a thrill ride, comedy adventure, cannibal, horror epic festival for your eyes and senses you have to watch masscare in dinosaur valley. it is hilarious, some of the lines and actions that happen are some of the funniest things i've ever seen in a movie.
I've seen it. Good film.
when you described mattei's films it reminded me of a film director named joe d'amato. ever watched any of his films?
Yes, I'm a huge fan of his film Anthropophagus aka The Grim Reaper, starring Tisa Farrow (Zombie) and Zora Kerova (Can -
lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(July 21, 2021 03:48 AM)
cryptoflovecraft said...
then you are not using the correct language to adequately explain what you mean about rape bc you keep saying you are ok with being raped by her but even that is wrong bc you are against anyone being raped and you are among everyone.
so you should have said you are ok with being talked into sex by her but not raped bc again, and again you used the word forced in this message that is incorrect bc forced implies you are raped bc you cant' force someone to do something they want to do already. and you are either wanting to have sex at a moment or not.
you imagine maybe that it's impossible to be raped by someone as beautiful and sexy as her but you are wrong bc anyone can rape any one else.
No, she can rape me. I mean it!
She's the exception to the rule, OK?
was it the hardest film to keep watching for you personally that you have ever watched?
Irreversible (2002) was much worse. I have NO DESIRE to ever see that one again.
totally unnecessary? um it's film, nothing is off limits in film. the animal killings were a part of the film in a necessary way to show how the natives live in their home country, their habitat.
It was unnecessary and sadistic. It could've been done with special effects or using already dead animals. Some of the actors and crew walked off the set when Deodato (the director) did that shit. Deodato was a genius but also an asshole.
if you want a thrill ride, comedy adventure, cannibal, horror epic festival for your eyes and senses you have to watch masscare in dinosaur valley. it is hilarious, some of the lines and actions that happen are some of the funniest things i've ever seen in a movie.
I've seen it. Good film.
when you described mattei's films it reminded me of a film director named joe d'amato. ever watched any of his films?
Yes, I'm a huge fan of his film Anthropophagus aka The Grim Reaper, starring Tisa Farrow (Zombie) and Zora Kerova (Cannibal Ferox).
I also loved Beyond the Darkness.
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she's not the exception to the rule she can't be bc you said rape is always bad, remember saying that?
you cant' be so dumb as to think what a lot of people wrongly and immaturely and naively think about these hot 35 year old girl teachers who rape their guy students in high school the guys not being rape victims bc how can they be raped when the girl is so hot but that has nothing to do with a girl or a guy taking advantage sexually of a young under 18 boy or girl.
they get messed up emotionally and psychologically if they are under 18, every one of them bc they aren't mentally or emotionally mature enough to be having sex with an adult person.
they might end up with the same person again bc they are so messed up in their head that they cant' be with any other person. but they never live a normal or peaceful life afterwards.
ok, now we get to irreversible, yes. i love it. it has the most arduous, grueling rape scene ever in a movie. you want to talk about repulsive and unwatchable, try watching this scene it's like 9 minutes long!
you want exploitation: watch this scene, you talk about the rape scenes in i spit on your grave as being hard to watch well, my friend, what did you think about this scene? can you give your feelings on this scene?
it was very hard to watch but i can't say it's the most disturbing film i've ever watched or the hardest film iv'e ever watched. but the extinguisher being hit over that guy's head scene wasn't anywhere near as disturbing or hard to watch as the hype i read about it before i watched this film.
what about man bites dog? ever watched this disturbing film? online pretty much everyone describes it as the most unpleasant film watching experience or the hardest to watch film ever.
your opinion of deodato is just that i don't subscribe to it. you have to understand italian filmmakers had their ways of dealing with actors like slapping them and physically abusing them on set.
and no to give the most authentic cannibal movie ever you have to slaughter a few animals it's necessary bc otherwise how can you make it realistic enough about animals being killed and then eaten?
this is not friday the 13th this is almost like a documentary and thus why over 40 years later such an effective film. without the animal killings it wouldn't be held in such realistic and gritty filmmaking status.
hey this is art right? so what's a few dead animals in the name of art right? i hope you are not one of those over sensitive peta people who care about animals more than people.
if it was dead animals it would look fake though and sp ef can only take you so far in
a movie they can't really get you into a documentary feel movie.
no way? hooray! you've watched massacre in dinosaur valley(1985)? that's so awesome! so do you agree with me in everything i said about it, praising it so much? do you agree that it's a masterpiece? i don't care what anyone says about it, it's one of the most entertaining films i've ever watched thus is one of the best films ever made.
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cryptoflovecraft — 4 years ago(July 21, 2021 01:27 PM)
lukejbarnett said...
she's not the exception to the rule she can't be bc you said rape is always bad, remember saying that?
you cant' be so dumb as to think what a lot of people wrongly and immaturely and naively think about these hot 35 year old girl teachers who rape their guy students in high school the guys not being rape victims bc how can they be raped when the girl is so hot but that has nothing to do with a girl or a guy taking advantage sexually of a young under 18 boy or girl.
they get messed up emotionally and psychologically if they are under 18, every one of them bc they aren't mentally or emotionally mature enough to be having sex with an adult person.
they might end up with the same person again bc they are so messed up in their head that they cant' be with any other person. but they never live a normal or peaceful life afterwards.
ok, now we get to irreversible, yes. i love it. it has the most arduous, grueling rape scene ever in a movie. you want to talk about repulsive and unwatchable, try watching this scene it's like 9 minutes long!
you want exploitation: watch this scene, you talk about the rape scenes in i spit on your grave as being hard to watch well, my friend, what did you think about this scene? can you give your feelings on this scene?
it was very hard to watch but i can't say it's the most disturbing film i've ever watched or the hardest film iv'e ever watched. but the extinguisher being hit over that guy's head scene wasn't anywhere near as disturbing or hard to watch as the hype i read about it before i watched this film.
what about man bites dog? ever watched this disturbing film? online pretty much everyone describes it as the most unpleasant film watching experience or the hardest to watch film ever.
your opinion of deodato is just that i don't subscribe to it. you have to understand italian filmmakers had their ways of dealing with actors like slapping them and physically abusing them on set.
and no to give the most authentic cannibal movie ever you have to slaughter a few animals it's necessary bc otherwise how can you make it realistic enough about animals being killed and then eaten?
this is not friday the 13th this is almost like a documentary and thus why over 40 years later such an effective film. without the animal killings it wouldn't be held in such realistic and gritty filmmaking status.
hey this is art right? so what's a few dead animals in the name of art right? i hope you are not one of those over sensitive peta people who care about animals more than people.
if it was dead animals it would look fake though and sp ef can only take you so far in
a movie they can't really get you into a documentary feel movie.
no way? hooray! you've watched massacre in dinosaur valley(1985)? that's so awesome! so do you agree with me in everything i said about it, praising it so much? do you agree that it's a masterpiece? i don't care what anyone says about it, it's one of the most entertaining films i've ever watched thus is one of the best films ever made.
its' so entertaining from beginning to end. it's so sleazy, the photography the way they just linger on the models' bodies. i love that. i love the ways the 2 girl models spend not just 10 minutes topless, on the island, they end up spending like 30 minutes topless on the island, they never cover up their tits until like the very end, so awesome!
so man lovable characters in this film. the people are all so varied in their personalities and are all such selfish jerks. their personalities are akin to the personalities if the friday the 13th movie characters when i think about it now. bc they are all like horny and stuff and silly with their humor.
one of the best parts is when the people are being eaten by pigs, so funny. they made all these extreme things that shouldn't be funny funny somehow. it's like inappropriate humor.
the showdown between the bad guy and the hero at the end is epic and awesome and scary and thrilling.
let me tell you if you enjoy the humor and characters and feel and campy atmosphere of a friday the 13th film you probably really like this film.
my favorite scene and maybe the funniest scene in movie history(i'm not exaggerating) is the part where the black or hispanic guy gets stuck in a water hole or something filled with water where his legs are getting eaten quickly by piranhas.
there is no words to adequately describe the uncontrollable laughter that i had watching this scene every time i watch this scene. it's like a girl that cant' control laughter, they just lose all control of holding it back and have to laugh their heads off.
i was laughing so hard and so inwardly and physically that it hurt. i almost don't know if i've laughed harder. there was something extremely ridiculous about his reaction to getting his legs eaten off by piranhas that was insanely funny.
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lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(July 21, 2021 11:30 PM)
cryptoflovecraft said...
she's not the exception to the rule she can't be bc you said rape is always bad, remember saying that?
I also said in a previous post (if you bothered to read it) that I was being facetious. You know what facetious means, right? It means I'm not being serious.
As it is, I'm through talking about this subject with you. There's an old saying, "we can agree to disagree" but you just can't seem to give up on this topic.
ok, now we get to irreversible, yes. i love it. it has the most arduous, grueling rape scene ever in a movie. you want to talk about repulsive and unwatchable, try watching this scene it's like 9 minutes long!
you want exploitation: watch this scene, you talk about the rape scenes in i spit on your grave as being hard to watch well, my friend, what did you think about this scene? can you give your feelings on this scene?
It was repulsive. It operates on the same level as Human Centipede but actually succeeds where that other film fails: it literally sickens the viewer. I felt nauseous after seeing Irreversible. The only thing "unique" about it is that the story is shown in reverse order. Is that clever? Not really. Otherwise, it's a pretty standard thriller about a woman getting raped and her two boyfriends looking for the rapist. The long grueling rape scene is the highlight of an otherwise unremarkable film - yes, that scene is "effective" but for all the wrong reasons. I didn't walk away from this film thinking that rape is bad (I already knew THAT) or that there are some extraordinarily evil and fucked up people in this world (I already know that too)- rather, I walked away from the film thinking how pointless this film really is. The dizzying camerawork and throbbing music also helped to make the film an unpleasant viewing experience. If the filmmaker tried his best to make a barely watchable film with no meaning or substance, he succeeded.
hey this is art right? so what's a few dead animals in the name of art right? i hope you are not one of those over sensitive peta people who care about animals more than people.
I care about all sentient beings. Killing an animal "in the name of art" is wrong. Period.
And who said anything about caring about animals more than people? Condemning the senseless killing of an animal has nothing to do with caring about animals more than people. If anything, it shows that some people have more humanity than others and we don't want to see ANY innocent creature suffer needlessly or even "for the sake of art".
do you love massacre in dinosaur valley?
I like it.
cannibal ferox! that film has widely been hailed as one of the most disturbing films ever made on many message boards. its it really hard to watch bc it's so disturbing?
I don't think it was all that disturbing. Unlike Cannibal Holocaust, it's too silly and cartoonish to take seriously. Even the castration scene is cartoonish.
i love the part in zombi(1981) when the girl just goes topless scuba diving. so awesome. see this is an example of how italian movies and european movies are better than american movies. no fucking way an american movie would ever do something like this brazen in a movie.
Auretta Gay. Beautiful woman. Sad to find out that she died in 2006 at the young age of 59.
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**** you, don't be mean or disrespectful to me. i've read everything you have written to me and you still haven't made sense about this bc you said you are completely against rape but yet said you are ok getting raped by her which is contradictory.
so you have to explain what you mean by this otherwise you aren't making sense and are contradicting yourself and your logic.
also you never said you weren't being serious when you said it's ok for her to rape you in your last message about this.
agree to disagree? if you believe that rape is always bad then there cannot be an exception to this rule of yours, you said she's the exception to your rule this is against your belief that rape is always bad.
but notice that they never glamourize their rape of her character. they never linger on her body with the camera, they don't show any nudity from her, so they make it as real and dark and harsh and negative as possible so that is admirable.
when you described irreversible it reminded me of another nasty little film called a serbian film. now this is the moment where i ask you have you watched the uncut version of this film that is the ultimate disturbing film experience. it has to be the hardest movie to get through.
but you missed my point which was that every country kills cows and chickens and all sorts of animals for their meat and milk so we can survive as humans so the real natives in this film were shown killing these animals like they do in their real lives and i'm sure they ate all the meat from these animals so it's not any different than what we do in this country and in every other country.
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cryptoflovecraft — 4 years ago(July 28, 2021 01:17 PM)
lukejbarnett said...
fuck you, don't be mean or disrespectful to me. i've read everything you have written to me and you still haven't made sense about this bc you said you are completely against rape but yet said you are ok getting raped by her which is contradictory.
so you have to explain what you mean by this otherwise you aren't making sense and are contradicting yourself and your logic.
also you never said you weren't being serious when you said it's ok for her to rape you in your last message about this.
agree to disagree? if you believe that rape is always bad then there cannot be an exception to this rule of yours, you said she's the exception to your rule this is against your belief that rape is always bad.
but notice that they never glamourize their rape of her character. they never linger on her body with the camera, they don't show any nudity from her, so they make it as real and dark and harsh and negative as possible so that is admirable.
when you described irreversible it reminded me of another nasty little film called a serbian film. now this is the moment where i ask you have you watched the uncut version of this film that is the ultimate disturbing film experience. it has to be the hardest movie to get through.
but you missed my point which was that every country kills cows and chickens and all sorts of animals for their meat and milk so we can survive as humans so the real natives in this film were shown killing these animals like they do in their real lives and i'm sure they ate all the meat from these animals so it's not any different than what we do in this country and in every other country.
i'm talking about the dumb people out there peta included who put animals above humans in value. the people who never forgive michael vick for killing and torturing dogs in his dog fighting group. people who actually put animals before humans in value. people who act like him killing animals was the same as killing human beings in level of importance.
also people who love their dogs and cats too much and put them above the people whom they love and live with in relationships. these people are fanatics, mostly girls but these people will do everything at every hour of every day for their dog or cat in expense of the time and energy and attention that they should be giving to their boyfriends and husbands. these are some of the worst people in the history of the world.
what is wrong with you? why do you keep giving me updates on the mortality status of filmmakers. this is 2 messages in a row now where you have said this person is dead. you are taking the life out of movies. please stop doing this sad and depressing thing.
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when you described irreversible it reminded me of another nasty little film called a serbian film. now this is the moment where i ask you have you watched the uncut version of this film that is the ultimate disturbing film experience. it has to be the hardest movie to get through.
I have no interest in seeing A Serbian Film. I generally stay away from torture porn. Is the torture porn subgenre really horror or just exploitation? I think it's the latter in most cases.
but you missed my point which was that every country kills cows and chickens and all sorts of animals for their meat and milk so we can survive as humans so the real natives in this film were shown killing these animals like they do in their real lives and i'm sure they ate all the meat from these animals so it's not any different than what we do in this country and in every other country.
In India killing cows is forbidden. There are millions of vegetarians in this world (and entire cultures that lean toward a mostly vegetarian diet) and I'm one of them. And who says humans are even supposed to eat meat? Our closest animal relatives are vegetarians. Our digestive tracts - like those of the apes - are designed to consume plants and fruits, not meat. Four-legged animals (felines, canines, etc) are different, their digestive tracts are designed for a mostly carnivorous diet. We're a more evolved species. Also, meat-eating has been linked to certain kinds of cancer. By eating meat, you're consuming whatever that animal was consuming including bacteria and whatever diseases that animal may carry.
i'm talking about the dumb people out there peta included who put animals above humans in value. the people who never forgive michael vick for killing and torturing dogs in his dog fighting group. people who actually put animals before humans in value.
I don't know who Michael Vick is but if he killed and tortured dogs he's an asshole and deserves some kind of punishment. Why is anyone "dumb" for not forgiving him?
these people will do everything at every hour of every day for their dog or cat in expense of the time and energy and attention that they should be giving to their boyfriends and husbands
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lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(July 28, 2021 05:45 PM)
cryptoflovecraft said...
when you described irreversible it reminded me of another nasty little film called a serbian film. now this is the moment where i ask you have you watched the uncut version of this film that is the ultimate disturbing film experience. it has to be the hardest movie to get through.
I have no interest in seeing A Serbian Film. I generally stay away from torture porn. Is the torture porn subgenre really horror or just exploitation? I think it's the latter in most cases.
but you missed my point which was that every country kills cows and chickens and all sorts of animals for their meat and milk so we can survive as humans so the real natives in this film were shown killing these animals like they do in their real lives and i'm sure they ate all the meat from these animals so it's not any different than what we do in this country and in every other country.
In India killing cows is forbidden. There are millions of vegetarians in this world (and entire cultures that lean toward a mostly vegetarian diet) and I'm one of them. And who says humans are even supposed to eat meat? Our closest animal relatives are vegetarians. Our digestive tracts - like those of the apes - are designed to consume plants and fruits, not meat. Four-legged animals (felines, canines, etc) are different, their digestive tracts are designed for a mostly carnivorous diet. We're a more evolved species. Also, meat-eating has been linked to certain kinds of cancer. By eating meat, you're consuming whatever that animal was consuming including bacteria and whatever diseases that animal may carry.
i'm talking about the dumb people out there peta included who put animals above humans in value. the people who never forgive michael vick for killing and torturing dogs in his dog fighting group. people who actually put animals before humans in value.
I don't know who Michael Vick is but if he killed and tortured dogs he's an asshole and deserves some kind of punishment. Why is anyone "dumb" for not forgiving him?
these people will do everything at every hour of every day for their dog or cat in expense of the time and energy and attention that they should be giving to their boyfriends and husbands
Who cares if they want to shower their pets with affection? That's their business, not yours or mine. Maybe they don't have boyfriends or husbands or maybe their boyfriends or husbands are assholes.
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torture porn is not inherently bad. hostel is a good movie and it's torture porn. hostel was supposed to be like the texas chainsaw massacre 1974 and so that means that tcm is maybe torture porn? also wolf creek is torture porn and it's a clear tcm 1974 influenced film. it's maybe the most similar film to tcm that has ever been made. so that means that tcm could be torture porn.
also exploitation is not bad or good. it's a film classification first for movies made in the 1970s often shown at drive-ins. it's just movies that are independent in spirit maybe are all independent movies and movies that are very violent.
and are the same as mainstream action drama sci fi and horror movies except with extreme violence more explicit than in mainstream action sci fi and horror movies and often have more nudity than in mainstream action horror and sci fi movies.
but what about martyrs, have you ever watched it? now that is the most disturbing film ever made. if you have courage and can watch any movie no matter how disturbing it is then you have to have watched it. it's as also a very well made film, it's a work of art. i believe the same thing about audition.
now that is an unnerving hard to watch film. have you ever watched audition? it lures you into thinking it's going to be a certain kind of film in the first half, then you are blindsided by the extremely macabre and visceral second half.
he was punished, he spent time in prison, like a year and a half. everyone should forgive everyone, no one is without merit to be forgiven. forgiving everyone is the way of a good, altruistic and moral person. we all have the capacity to forgive and we all should. it's not right to hold a grudge against someone and it's not right to hate someone bc of what they did.
people are dumb for not forgiving vick bc they put dogs above humans in regards to them being killed in a bad inhumane way and then they think of this as being worse than the people who get killed from genocide or from a cult or a race hating group.
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cryptoflovecraft — 4 years ago(August 03, 2021 02:44 PM)
lukejbarnett said...
torture porn is not inherently bad. hostel is a good movie and it's torture porn. hostel was supposed to be like the texas chainsaw massacre 1974 and so that means that tcm is maybe torture porn? also wolf creek is torture porn and it's a clear tcm 1974 influenced film. it's maybe the most similar film to tcm that has ever been made. so that means that tcm could be torture porn.
also exploitation is not bad or good. it's a film classification first for movies made in the 1970s often shown at drive-ins. it's just movies that are independent in spirit maybe are all independent movies and movies that are very violent.
and are the same as mainstream action drama sci fi and horror movies except with extreme violence more explicit than in mainstream action sci fi and horror movies and often have more nudity than in mainstream action horror and sci fi movies.
but what about martyrs, have you ever watched it? now that is the most disturbing film ever made. if you have courage and can watch any movie no matter how disturbing it is then you have to have watched it. it's as also a very well made film, it's a work of art. i believe the same thing about audition.
now that is an unnerving hard to watch film. have you ever watched audition? it lures you into thinking it's going to be a certain kind of film in the first half, then you are blindsided by the extremely macabre and visceral second half.
he was punished, he spent time in prison, like a year and a half. everyone should forgive everyone, no one is without merit to be forgiven. forgiving everyone is the way of a good, altruistic and moral person. we all have the capacity to forgive and we all should. it's not right to hold a grudge against someone and it's not right to hate someone bc of what they did.
people are dumb for not forgiving vick bc they put dogs above humans in regards to them being killed in a bad inhumane way and then they think of this as being worse than the people who get killed from genocide or from a cult or a race hating group.
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torture porn is not inherently bad. hostel is a good movie and it's torture porn. hostel was supposed to be like the texas chainsaw massacre 1974 and so that means that tcm is maybe torture porn? also wolf creek is torture porn and it's a clear tcm 1974 influenced film. it's maybe the most similar film to tcm that has ever been made. so that means that tcm could be torture porn.
I've seen both Wolf Creek and Hostel. I liked WC but I didn't care much for Hostel. Eli Roth has never made a film that I liked (aside from the mildly entertaining and completely unnecessary remake of Death Wish, that is). Torture porn is either the last resort of an unimaginative filmmaker or the forte of a just plain bad one - take yer pick.
TCM isn't torture porn and it's not even close to being TP. The remake has a bit of a torture porn feel to it though.
I've never seen Martyrs or Audition.
people are dumb for not forgiving vick bc they put dogs above humans in regards to them being killed in a bad inhumane way and then they think of this as being worse than the people who get killed from genocide or from a cult or a race hating group.
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lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(August 03, 2021 08:16 PM)
cryptoflovecraft said...
torture porn is not inherently bad. hostel is a good movie and it's torture porn. hostel was supposed to be like the texas chainsaw massacre 1974 and so that means that tcm is maybe torture porn? also wolf creek is torture porn and it's a clear tcm 1974 influenced film. it's maybe the most similar film to tcm that has ever been made. so that means that tcm could be torture porn.
I've seen both Wolf Creek and Hostel. I liked WC but I didn't care much for Hostel. Eli Roth has never made a film that I liked (aside from the mildly entertaining and completely unnecessary remake of Death Wish, that is). Torture porn is either the last resort of an unimaginative filmmaker or the forte of a just plain bad one - take yer pick.
TCM isn't torture porn and it's not even close to being TP. The remake has a bit of a torture porn feel to it though.
I've never seen Martyrs or Audition.
people are dumb for not forgiving vick bc they put dogs above humans in regards to them being killed in a bad inhumane way and then they think of this as being worse than the people who get killed from genocide or from a cult or a race hating group.
No, it's not worse than genocide but it's despicable all the same.
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ok now i'm happy and pleased with you bc i have the same belief as you, about remakes. if it's not necessary then they shouldn't make it. i just told someone tis last week. i told them if a film cannot be improved upon with a remake then the remake shouldn't be made and it's deemed and defined as unnecessary.
robocop remake unnecessary, psycho remake for sure unnecessary, also valley girl, adventures in babysitting, footloose, friday the 13th, a nightmare on elm street, hellraiser, the evil dead, though it was remade and remade very well,
i still think the remake is unnecessary but maybe that's the only exception to this rule bc the sequel which actually is a remake is so epically great. also mother's day remake, not necessary, and ghostbusters remake of course not necessary.
by the way have you ever watched father's day from about 2013? the guy i told you about who has watched like every movie ever made said it was so disturbing that he was amazed and he's watched so many horror movies that are disturbing that for him to be shocked and impressed with a film being disturbing it must be one ****ed up disturbing horror film.
from the things i've read about it it sounds like a very grueling, nasty violent, old school '70s, raw horror film. one of the characters has the name the fuchman, lol, so it has humor also. it's about a killer who rapes and kills dads. so weird of an idea.
last resort meaning just 1, their first movie? and forte meaning they make these movies all the time?
now wolf creek is amazing right? weren't you blown away by how original, eerie, haunting, disturbing and creepy it is? wasn't it a hard film to keep watching bc of it's ruthless and heartless main villain and bc of the torture the kids went through?
which is why you probably didn't like the remake of tcm right, bc it's kind of torture porn? did you like the remake?
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geewizzz — 4 years ago(June 21, 2021 01:48 PM)
it's impossible to make a remake as great as the original film
What did you think of Carpenter's
The Thing
, the 1978 version of
Invasion of The Body Snatchers
,
Scarface
(1983),
The Fly
(1986),
Cat People
(1982),
The Wizard of Oz
(1939),
The Maltese Falcon
(1941),
Eyes Wide Shut
(1999),
A Clockwork Orange
(1971) ?
they also remade robocop, ghostbusters, footloose, and a nightmare on elm street.
I saw the remake of
Footloose
but haven't seen the original…though I admit the only reason I watched it was because of a certain actor that was in it.
I wouldn't say it was that good but maybe not as bad as it is made out to be…but I can't compare the original, since I haven't seen it…I've only seen the music vid for the title song.
I saw both versions of
Robocop
…I much prefer the original. I don't like the sequels at all.
It's just easy to market stuff people are already familiar with.
But some directors can put an interesting spin on old concepts.
I agree that most of them aren't good though.
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lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(June 22, 2021 04:02 PM)
when i said this i meant classic films from the '80s that have been remade since the '00s decade. for some weird reason it's bc all the creativity ran out, dried up starting in the '00s decade, so many classic films started being remade in the '00s decade.
so, sorry to say this horror film fans, scream and films made around the time of scream(1996-1999) were the last original horror films that we are ever going to see mostly, with a very few exceptions that break new ground.
carpenter's the thing is a masterpiece. i just found out from watching the great documentary in search of darkness that carpenter didn't want to make it bc he loved the original so much, the thing from another world.
just think of a world without the thing remake from carpenter. that would be a horrible world.
wait, the wizard of oz(1939) is a remake? i didn't know there is a movie called the wizard of oz made before this movie.
same thing about the maltese falcon and eyes wide shut. never heard of movies with these titles other than the movie with humphrey bogart and the movie with tom cruise
i heard one person say scarface(1983) is a bad movie.
cat people(1982) is a great film. i hared it's completely different than the original cat people 1942). and this is the way to make a remake, if you're going to remake a film you better make it completely different than the original if the original is a classic film.
about footloose remake: did you watch it only bc of the hot girl lead?
and then they actually went and made a spinoff movie of alien and predator that was horrible called alien vs. predator and then they actually made another alien vs. predator movie that was bad also.
though predators is a good movie but it's not an alien vs. predator movie so i'm glad they didn't do another one of these bound to fail gimmick movies.
just bc its an easy way to make money doesn't mean it's a good idea for a movie this is lazy filmmaking, it's making a movie that is known to make money based on a previous movie formula.
it doesn't require much originality just copying another movie. it's cheap and i usually refuse to watch remakes of classic films. and the thing is i'll watch a film that is a ripoff of another film as long as it's not called the same name of the movie it's ripping off. it feels wrong to rip off another movie by calling it a remake knowing it's going to make a lot of money just bc the original film did.
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geewizzz — 4 years ago(June 24, 2021 07:24 PM)
wait, the wizard of oz(1939) is a remake? i didn't know there is a movie called the wizard of oz made before this movie.
The earliest surviving film version
The Wonderful Wizard of Oz
is from 1910.
But there were a few adaptations of L. Frank Baum's book.
The 1925 film version was based on the stage play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptations_of_The_Wizard_of_Oz
i heard one person say scarface(1983) is a bad movie.
Some like it…others don't.
It's over the top, but it's become a cult classic.
Eyes Wide Shut
is adapted from the 1926 novel,
Traumnovelle
(Dream Story) by Arthur Schnitzler.
There's a film version of it from 1969.
The first film version of
The Maltese Falcon
is from 1931
about footloose remake: did you watch it only bc of the hot girl lead?
No…one of the actors in a supporting role.
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lukejbarnett — 4 years ago(June 25, 2021 05:22 AM)
i didn't know that. interesting. if you asked 100 people on the street, random people is there a movie the wizard of oz before the version from 1939, 99 people wouldn't know that there is a version before the 1939 version.
did you know there is a movie called i married a witch from 1942? amazing. i just watched it it stars veronica lake and it's what obviously inspired bewitched the tv show bc the main girl acts just like samantha and she has the same relationship with her dad that samantha has with her witch mom and it has the same light humor that bewitched has too, the same tone.
it's a amazing to me that a big hollywood movie with a big hollywood actress veronica lake actually made a movie about witches in 1942!!!
how do you know about all these obscure movie facts? are you on wikipedia every day or something?
i love obscure and unique movies. i love parts of the movie the crimson cult.
what is the name of the movie in which there is a moon with a face on it and it has a monocle over one of it's eyes? it's a movie from like the 1920s.
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geewizzz — 4 years ago(June 25, 2021 06:31 AM)
The Anniversary Editions of
The Wizard of Oz
DVDs include the older silent films on the bonus discs as well as documentaries about the history of the film.
I've just been into a lot of movies since I was very young…even before I was using the Internet.
I started with old video catalogs from warehouses and had a video store near me as a kid with a lot of rare stuff.
And it helped that I knew some people that knew a lot about the subject to help guide me.
But yea, I do research on things and check Wikipedia now and then.
And yea,
I Married A Witch
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I assume you mean
A Trip To The Moon
from 1902, which had hand printed color on some early prints
Are you okay?