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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — James Bond


    RynoII — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 12:59 AM)

    SPOILER
    Basically Maz Zorin and his men catch a man who has been snooping around Zorin's dock in San Francisco.
    Zorin's men find a bomb which the man brought. Zorin hand's the bomb to the captured man and tells his to defuse it. But why didn't the guy just detonate the bomb and attempt to take out Zorin and Zorin's men with him?

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      j_w_pepper — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 02:55 AM)

      The fact that someone is trying to plant a bomb doesn't make him a suicide bomber. I guess if you get caught and see a chance (however realistic) of getting away with your life if you comply, you do not necessarily choose to kill yourself instead, even if you would take a bunch of baddies along for the ride.
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        RynoII — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 03:05 AM)

        But they were going to kill him anyway. He was not getting out. So wouldn't he think "well if these guys are going to murder me, I might as well take them out with me, so they cannot get away with it and live".

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          rich_bruce — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 05:44 AM)

          It's not just about looking for the sliver of a chance to survive.
          Also about HOW you die. Caught and interrogated, you don't want to do anything early on that prompts the captor to go too far to where's there's no turning back.
          But not being Bond, the poor guy never has a chance to die another day. If the guy detonates the bomb and kills Zorin, that also doesn't do much for the movie.
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            TheSharkFromJaws — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 07:38 AM)

            Anti climactic way to end the movie, don't you think?

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              RynoII — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 12:25 PM)

              That's true, but since Zorin new that his hostage, could detonate his own bomb to take Zorin out with him, why would Zorin hand him the bomb in the first place to be disarmed?
              It's like taking away a cop's gun, and then giving it back to him, ordering him to put the safety on, knowing the cop might be tempted to shoot his way out of being held hostage.

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                TheSharkFromJaws — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 01:06 PM)

                That'd be an anti-climactic way to end the movie as well.
                It's also nothing like having someone disarm a bomb. Anyone can get rid of a gun, but there isn't necessarily someone else capable of disarming that particular bomb.

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                  RynoII — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 04:40 PM)

                  Well they could have just thrown the bomb into the sea and forgotten about it, rather than giving it to the person who knows how to work it. Wouldn't that have been better writing?

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                    TheSharkFromJaws — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 05:12 PM)

                    Obviously it's not that simple. And no, it wouldn't be better writing.
                    Why do you ask so many questions like this? You remind me of another poster we've had (have?) here. Of all the Bond films, AVTAK might also literally be the least deserving of the effort to explain.
                    The fact that it would make for a thoroughly unexciting end to the movie had this dude done what you're suggesting should be sufficient enough of an answer for this kinda movie. Not that the movie is all that exciting anyways, but I digress.

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                      RichardTheBruce — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 05:40 PM)

                      Wasn't Max Zorin a psychopath? His reckless actions are actually in character.
                      You're not supposed to trust his judgment.
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                        Ronsin1976 — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 09:40 AM)

                        Actually they had to show that Zorin is so ruthless that he is willing to defy the dreaded KGB and take out one of their one in a dreadful manner.
                        I actually believe it was dangerous of him to do so. He would have spurn General Gogol who was the prime example of Soviet Cool. Then he would have had the KGB after him, along with the British Secret Service, and the American CIA.
                        So even if he would have gotten away with the Silicon Valley earthquake, his days were numbered.
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