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    ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 14, 2022 12:02 AM)

    I do like the grungy-seedy aesthetic, though at the same time there is a kind of overall
    blob quality
    to the movie. In some ways, it's unformed.
    Yes,
    Heat
    is very low budget, shot on 16mm and tacky for the most part, but it is fun. I would include
    Heat
    on say a list of "favorite" films from the 70's.
    I'm veering away here from using "best" as a term to define film, as "best" is also very subjective. "one of the best" though can come into play when some films do have undisputed qualities attributed to their entity.
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      xXOojJKk — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 05:19 AM)

      One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest does it for me. Nurse Ratched was more frightening than Bruce, the shark, in Jaws.

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        ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 05:25 AM)

        Ratched became a villain to hate for the ages for those that have seen the film and she still tops many hateful movie villain lists.
        She was a different kind of scary to the instinctual and naturally scary nature of Bruce in
        Jaws
        . She was as "unnatural" as they come, as evil cannot have anything natural about it except being about dominance, control and subjugation.
        Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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          I love hutch — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 07:04 PM)

          I despise NR. To the degree that she brings out the violence in me. Seeing her getting choked was
          highly
          satisfying. To be honest, they should have gang banged her. That's really the most appropriate reaction to the bitch nurse.
          "My life is over. I might as well dance with Johnny Slash!"

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            ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 08:56 PM)

            Seeing her getting choked was highly satisfying. To be honest, they should have gang banged her.
            I couldn't even imagine any of those guys even wanting to go there. That would have been desperate and they were all pretty much demure. How she wanted them.
            Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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              I love hutch — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 09:18 PM)

              In the book, MacMurphy rips her starched white nurse's uniform down the front, exposing her big tits. That was also satisfying.
              I know I said gang bang, but what I meant was rape. Ordinarily, I would say that rape is an unspeakable violation, but in the case of this horrible, castrating bitch, I say she deserves nothing less than rape.
              "My life is over. I might as well dance with Johnny Slash!"

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                ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 09:34 PM)

                She is a hateful sow and represents the worst of what many controlling women can end up like. Working for the corrupt establishment who wouldn't see a thing wrong with her and condescendingly look down on the patients.
                Mac said it in a nutshell from his own spot on organic psychological analysis of her, that she likes a rigged game and she was a k<>t! Erudite and pompous ass superior doc wouldn't have liked that, even though it was true.
                Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                  I love hutch — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 10:38 PM)

                  I love MacMurphy. Jack Nicholson was born to play that role. I love the way he fills out a pair of faded blue jeans. And his spirit is irresistible.
                  "My life is over. I might as well dance with Johnny Slash!"

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                    ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 16, 2022 03:37 AM)

                    He did more for those men on his ward, than that so-called professional nurse and psychiatrists ever did.
                    Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                      xXOojJKk — 4 years ago(January 20, 2022 06:36 AM)

                      That final scene! One of the greatest endings ever!

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                        Rittenhouse The Righteous — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 08:39 AM)

                        What you're describing as top tier, Hollywood refers to as "high-concept". Essentially, studio controlled, with high production values and a bankable cast.
                        Good list. I'd add Chinatown and Apocalypse Now, and swap Jaws for Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Although Jaws is the more popular movie, CEotTK is the more groundbreaking and influencial of Spielberg's 70s stuff.
                        Check my block list because you're probably on it.

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                          ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 09:00 AM)

                          What you're describing as top tier, Hollywood refers to as "high-concept". Essentially, studio controlled, with high production values and a bankable cast.
                          Yes! However, I did include a low-budget horror film with
                          Carrie
                          , yet that is stylish with a now iconic director.
                          If you could make 10 based on the "high-concept" context, what would they all be? I am interested in hearing others perhaps add what I couldn't include, or films I haven't seen.
                          I had the notion to put
                          Taxi Driver

                          • '76, but I feel
                            Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore
                            doesn't get the Scorsese recognition it deserves and I personally prefer it over TD. It is also not typical Scorsese that many are used too.
                            Norman! What did you put in my tea?
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                            Sofie, RAF — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 07:06 PM)

                            THE PANIC IN NEEDLE PARK (1971) director: Jerry Schatzberg

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                              MortSahlFan — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 08:27 PM)

                              Harry And Tonto (Mazursky)
                              Nashville (Altman)
                              One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest (Forman)
                              A Woman Under The Influence (Cassavetes)
                              Network (Lumet)
                              Harold And Maude (Ashby)
                              Fat City (Huston)
                              Mikey And Nicky (May)
                              A Clockwork Orange (Kubrick)
                              The Conversation (Coppola)
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                                ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 08:30 PM)

                                Good list.
                                Huston, Kubrick and Lumet were around the block though by the 70's.
                                Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                  MortSahlFan — 4 years ago(January 15, 2022 11:46 PM)

                                  Thank you.
                                  I thought about excluding them, but didn't because by the 70s, they weren't "old school" and adapted well, while most others couldn't, including the actors, but it was pretty cool to see Robert Mitchum in something like "Friends of Eddie Coyle". Frank Capra would be a great example of a director who was great, but couldn't adapt. I couldn't even finish his last movie.
                                  Have you seen "Wise Blood"? It's not very 1970s, but I liked it on my 2nd viewing. Kubrick seemed to have changed by 2001, but before, I would definitely agree he was pretty old-school. Even Lumet's stuff in retrospect might not seem special, but his debut, "12 Angry Men" was pretty different.
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                                    Cerridwen — 4 years ago(January 16, 2022 02:05 AM)

                                    Hell YES. I love 70s movies. Such an odd decade for films.
                                    My list, comprised of films I feel didn't quite reach the status of 'Apocalypse Now,' 'Jaws,' 'The Excorcist,' 'Rocky,' or 'The Godfather':
                                    Suspiria

                                    • 1977 - Dario Argento
                                      Phantom of the Paradise
                                    • 1974 - Brian De Palma
                                      A Clockwork Orange
                                    • 1971 - Kubrick
                                      Close Encounters of the Third Kind
                                    • 1977 - Spielberg
                                      Westworld
                                    • 1973 - Michael Crichton
                                      Alien
                                    • 1979 - Ridley Scott
                                      Wise Blood
                                    • 1979 - John Huston
                                      Punishment Park
                                    • 1971 - Peter Watkins
                                      Sorcerer
                                    • 1977 - William Friedkin
                                      The Man Who Fell to Earth
                                    • 1976 - Nicolas Roeg
                                      Hark! Harold the angel sings.
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                                      ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 16, 2022 03:44 AM)

                                      Good Calls! I like
                                      Westworld
                                      but often forget about it.
                                      Sorcerer never really appealed to me and haven't seen
                                      Wise Blood
                                      or
                                      Punishment Park
                                      .
                                      The Man Who Fell To Earth
                                      I have to be in the mood to watch, but it is really an exceptional sci-fi film and very grounded and earthy like its title.
                                      Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                        I love hutch — 4 years ago(January 16, 2022 07:02 AM)

                                        I've seen four movies on your list ("Suspiria", "Phantom of the Paradise", "A Clockwork Orange" and "Alien") and I like them all.
                                        "My life is over. I might as well dance with Johnny Slash!"

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                                          ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 16, 2022 11:30 PM)

                                          This one is one that tends to fly under the radar and is one I often forget to mention. It would in fact rate in my top 20 "high-concept" films, or top 20 dramas from the 70's:
                                          Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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