Tyler got killed off?
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awesomebamon — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 06:15 PM)
Julie Plec doesn't care about preserving any other character or storyline, besides the Delena one and the Delena fandom. If you are a fan of any other character almost then she doesn't mind killing them off and mistreating them for plot. She has brought back Sarah, Lucy, and Tyler just to kill them off for the last couple of seasons.
But, I'm suppose to trust her handling Bonnie's ending to the series. I'm sure that she would kill every character off besides Damon and Elena and just end the series alone with them in an endgame if she could. -
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ursulazsenya — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 09:21 PM)
Don't worry Tyler is not dead.
She didn't bring back Lucy. She killed her off-screen.
Bonnie's actually been written very well this season. If you can look past the fact that you didn't get your shipper preference - you could enjoy this season of finally putting her front and center & protected & cherished by almost everyone of the main characters. -
awesomebamon — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 09:37 PM)
Bringing back Lucy for Plot to kill her off is still bad. Considering that Lucy is a WOC who many wanted back, but she brings her on to kill her off.
Please how is Bonnie well written in pain and suffering and magicless once again? Don't reduce everything to shipping, unless you want your problems with JP's writing and how they write for the show or the Damon rape debate reduced to shipping.
My points about Bonnie and how JP treats POC on the show poorly are just as valid as any of yours that you have with her writing.
And why is JP and the writing getting defended in the issues of race and diversity on the show, and acting like she is writing well for Bonnie. When you have an issue with Damon and the rape? -
Freya_Mikaelson — 9 years ago(November 05, 2016 03:37 AM)
Honestly this argument is stupid. I get people getting mad about Tyler, but Lucy? BITCH WAS IN ONE EPISODE GET OVER IT.
She was a pointless, useless character who seemingly found her way back into the plot. Her being dead or alive would've made no difference. Honestly who even cares?
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ursulazsenya — 9 years ago(November 05, 2016 06:26 AM)
She's the female lead now so her life's not going to be happy or without troubles or there'll be no drama. That's what being front and center is all about - she's the one that things happen to and everyone, good or bad, make the focus of their attention.
In fact her storyline now, play for play is Elena's in season 3 after Stefan went away with Klaus. Elena was just as physically, magically powerless and unhappy and like Elena then, Bonnie's strength is coming from being surrounded by people who love her and want to protect her even as some crazy supernatural makes her his (Klaus) and now her (Sybil) focus.
Her being without magic is actually empowering for Bonnie as a the black woman's who had do often been reduced to a plot device that uses her magic to save everyone. It's forced the story to give her the same 'Damsel' treatment that the other girls have enjoyed. Now it's Bonnie who gets to have people push her behind them to safety - Caroline, Enzo, Stefan. Who gets saved by Alaric at the end. Who's important not because she's #Useful as Damon always said, but because she's Bonnie.
Her strengths are also reminded. Her gorgeousness is no longer treated like it doesn't exist. Her inner strength is praised. Her devotion to her friends is commented on and even exploited, instead of taken for granted. That, unlike the other girls who are surrounded by lovers, past and present, she's surrounded by friends and she's that special that she can inspire devotion in Damon - separate from her relationship to Elena because he doesn't remember her - without a romantic or sexual history. In fact, his memories of her are given as much weight as his memories of Elena.
And it's a shame you're going to ignore all that because you didn't get Bamon. A relationship where Bonnie timeshares her true love with another woman and is in no way superior or even more compelling than Bonenzo. -
awesomebamon — 9 years ago(November 05, 2016 06:36 AM)
We disagree because me and other Bonnie fans do not see the writing for Bonnie in any way as a positive or a compliment. Because you do doesn't mean that others will or have too.
Always reducing it to people shipping Bamon and not getting Bamon, when some so busy to blame Bamon fans don't get that there are actually Bonnie fans who don't ship Bamon and who flat out hate Bamon and are Anti-Bamon/Damon, who also dislike Bonenzo and who have a problem with the writing for Bonnie.
But, single it out and act like Bamon fans are the only Bonnie fans who have a problem with the writing if you'd like to dismiss valid reasons for why people have a problem with JP's writing.
You going to go and accuse BonKai shippers or Kennett shippers of the same things if some of them complain about the writing and have a problem with it as well?
Nothing you can say that will make me accept the writing for Bonnie as something that should be embraced and praised.