Does anybody like "Salo" (1975)?
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Woodyanders — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 01:29 AM)
I'm a big fan of Salo. One of the best movies ever made about the stark horrors of reducing people to the level of objects to be used and then discarded after they serve their purpose. I work in retail, so I totally get that point.
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I love hutch — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 02:02 AM)
You mean like as in consumerism as a metaphor?
There may be intelligence here, but it's buried deep. Of course, I haven't seen it in 20 years. The scenes of eating poop are too gross and I can't watch them. And the boy who gets his tongue cut out of his mouth and the girl who gets scalped are too vividly cruel. The old ladies talking out their fantasies seems to lend "Salo" an elegance, but to me, the movie is only slightly less offensive (though much better made) than "Hostel", which was also about the cruel exploitation and destruction of youth and beauty and innocence. And it wouldn't surprise me a bit to learn that Eli Roth was inspired by this film when he made the "Hostel" movies.
I guess I can't say "Salo" is a bad film per se, but it's a movie I can say I don't like one bit. Maybe that's fairer. I don't know.
For a movie about humans being treated like cattle, I think it doesn't get any better than "They Shoot Horses, Don't They?" And it doesn't spare us any of the horrors, either. That movie is relentless. That there are fleeting moments of tenderness only makes the movie even more devastating.
Of course, I realize it is possible to like and admire both of these films.
The second "elimination race", in particular, drains me. But I can't take my eyes off the characters. And I think it's Jane Fonda's best performance. The crack in her voice @ 3:08 when she wails "I'm tired of losing" is chilling.
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Cheeky — 4 years ago(September 26, 2021 02:04 AM)
Oh, you have my deepest sympathies. I was a retail worker too
Granted, most people are nice but it's hard to tolerate the rude asses
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I love hutch — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 02:18 AM)
All I can in De Sade's defense is that better for him to have expressed his perverse, sick sexual fantasies on paper rather than to have acted them out in real life. In the book, one of the characters masturbates while watching a pregnant woman being disemboweled.
I know watching the movie did not enhance me in any way.
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I love hutch — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 02:27 AM)
I remember watching "Pulp Fiction" in the theater and how everybody burst out laughing when John Travolta accidentally shoots the kid in the back seat. That caught me off guard. I didn't get it. Still don't. Though I did like the movie overall.
I will say that I probably hate "Fargo" as much as I hate "Salo". Maybe even more.
And Pauline Kael said something to the effect of watching Quint being eaten by the shark being very funny and how all that macho amounted to nothing in the end. I can agree with the second of her assessment, but I never found Quint's violent death the least bit amusing. Then only attack scene I can even watch is Alex Kitner. When the shark rolls over in the water, the effect is very surreal.
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Cheeky — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 03:01 AM)
I don't hate Fargo and I've never seen Pulp Fiction
Travolta kills a kid?
Quint's death is horrific
If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana -
Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 03:58 AM)
I know which is why I am being helpful to your question.
Here is a pic of the so called "kid."
(Hint: He is the one in the middle.)
https://i.redd.it/o6gz4w8qaoy41.jpg
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I love hutch — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 04:52 AM)
It's on accident. Samuel Jackson drives over a bump or something and JT's gun goes off in the face of a kid. QT turns it into dark humor.
Quint's death was horrific. Chrissie's death is the more disturbing, but once in a while at night I imagine I am Quint and the shark is at the end of my bed and I am sliding into its mouth. Horrible.
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Cheeky — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 06:08 AM)
I watched a clip of the scene where Travolta's gun goes off. He was stupid for pointing it at him when he was talking
Yes, Chrissie's death was very realistic
Why would you imagine you're Quint? Terrible
If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana -
I love hutch — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 06:17 AM)
I hate that I do that. I think Chrissie and Quint's deaths just freaked me out so much and I can't shake it.
The fear the movie's poster elicits is universal. And I have had so many nightmares centering on Chrissie being attacked by the shark below. They started when I was around 15 or 16 and on the average I have about two of them a year. So, that's around 70 times I have dreamt of Chrissie and her mortal fear. Actually, I can go maybe 2 or 3 years without having one, but then I'll have four of them in six months. The last Chrissie nightmare I had was about 3 weeks ago. They are always vivid.
In fact, years and years ago, on the original IMDB boards, my online moniker was, for a very brief time, "I Dream of Chrissie".
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