Does anybody like "Salo" (1975)?
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I love hutch — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 06:17 AM)
I hate that I do that. I think Chrissie and Quint's deaths just freaked me out so much and I can't shake it.
The fear the movie's poster elicits is universal. And I have had so many nightmares centering on Chrissie being attacked by the shark below. They started when I was around 15 or 16 and on the average I have about two of them a year. So, that's around 70 times I have dreamt of Chrissie and her mortal fear. Actually, I can go maybe 2 or 3 years without having one, but then I'll have four of them in six months. The last Chrissie nightmare I had was about 3 weeks ago. They are always vivid.
In fact, years and years ago, on the original IMDB boards, my online moniker was, for a very brief time, "I Dream of Chrissie".
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Cheeky — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 06:22 AM)
That film really had an affect on you
You must have a very vivid imagination
If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana -
I love hutch — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 06:29 AM)
It did. I actually saw "Jaws 2" first as I was a bit too young when the original came out. But I remember the summer of 1978 and our downtown theater did its own advertising for the film by having somebody paint this huge mural on the brick wall right next to the theater. I'll never forget it. The mural was the classic image of the shark that we all know and with the blue water. And it was huge. That brick wall is still there and it's at least 30 feet tall, so, yeah the image of the shark was huge. Quite frightening!
I think I do have a vivid imagination. But, if I may ask, what made you think that?
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Cheeky — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 06:31 AM)
Because of how often you think about those scenes and the effect they had on you
If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana -
ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 04:06 AM)
Pasolini appears to have made this film for his own personal gratifications.
I really don't get the point of it, apart from cramming in as much degradation and shock value as he could, without any genuine purpose and then selling it off as art.
While
Hostel
films are thematically about cruelty, for me they operate on a completely different dynamic to
Salo
. They show the depths of depravity that humans will descend too, yet also put a thrilling, suspenseful and more relatable package surrounding the story.
Roth was shocking more with violent imagery, rather than using nakedness to exploit for his own gratification. The nudity/sexuality was for the benefit of the characters seeking out their own hedonistic pleasure and was the draw card to ensnare them into the clutches of this psychopathic club.
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I love hutch — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 04:08 AM)
That's exactly what I think. A horrible and entirely superfluous story made by a not untalented director who may have related a little bit too much to De Sade for comfort.
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I love hutch — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 04:55 AM)
I just wonder if there are some people out there with so much wealth and so much power that they think they are some kind of superior species, blessed by the gods or something, and think they are justified to do truly terrible things to those who have less. Are they really that bored or ungrateful with their good fortune?
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Slug Bait — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 07:03 AM)
Salo is an exploration of the depravity humans can be capable of when they feel they are immune to any consequences.
That's the reason the villains are wealthy higher ups in a large grand castle. They feel they are above the law.
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ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 08:47 AM)
That is in line with the comment
@I love Hutch
made.
They were sick narcissists and psychopaths. People like that pay in the end, even if they may escape what we deem human consequence. They would meet horrible suffering deaths, or get tormented as they get older mentally.
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I love hutch — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 09:15 AM)
"or get tormented as they get older mentally."
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Oh, it's so creepy, but it's so true. These people don't even know that they are, at some level, hurting themselves most of all. These people are likely not deep thinkers. Or feelers. Zero empathy. They respond only to their own senses and their egos.
I was thinking about posting something about the terrible thing that is insanity and I think what you wrote here is very close to that.
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ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 09:34 AM)
It all boils down to vehement notion of self and aristocratic sense of superiority over others lives.
Being a world at war too, which is man's inhumanity to man as well, ethics and moral lines get blurred and we know these wars were designed at the time to also deplete the human population.
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I love hutch — 4 years ago(August 29, 2021 09:54 AM)
we know these wars were designed at the time to also deplete the human population.
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I never considered that before. Yuck.
In that case, us non-producing homos should be revered as Saviors!
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ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(August 30, 2021 12:40 AM)
In that case, us non-producing homos should be revered as Saviors!
No-one ever accredited the breeder with insight and common sense, only to themselves due to delusions of grandeur.
It worked in the establishment favor to have homosexuality a perversion, as it was used for blackmail purposes and apparently goes against the laws of nature and God's nature…
The easily brainwashed herd never questioned that nature creates us all and the breeder are the ones who create all human species.
Norman! What did you put in my tea?
