I am talking from my experience
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bakerstreetdozen — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 03:58 PM)
People in general have the ability to be shallow and bitter, no matter their sexual orientation. There are plenty of straight people who are like this as well, and there are many who aren't. It all falls down to the individual.
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MyMovieTVRomance — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 10:21 PM)
Some of the coldest shallow, unfriendly, rude, attitude-people I have met were gay. No, they are not more sen-si-tive in general.
I agree. It's sad but true. I mean, just look at the experiance I had with some of them on the CAROL board:
http://www.imdb.com/board/12402927/board/nest/265098562
Can't even discuss movies with them without a fight of some kind!
Anyway, lumping LG with TG is a turn-off, and only perpetuates the stigma.
Well, I too think it's a turnoff but maybe for different reasons than you. My reason is that each group of people within that acronym are so different, that lumping them all together is very misleading and it also builds unfair expectations for people within those groups to get along equally with the others, when maybe it doesn't come natural because they are so different from one another.
The thing is, it seems like some kind of unrealistic utopian mindset to lump them all together, because lesbians and gays are very different, buys and transgender's a very different, and then you have the queer people who claimed to fit no group. What an average lesbian, who is traditional in every way except for who she happened to fall in love with really understand the ambiguous this of the queer or transe group. No, not really. Because there's more to the queer and trends community than just how they choose to dress it's a state of mind. It's a state of being, and that's very different from a woman who happens to fall in love with another woman. But unfortunately, because these groups are lumped together by social justice warrior's, there's this great expectation that were all supposed to get along or think alike when the truth is, nothing could be further from reality.
Now, I may be in the minority in thinking this in fact, I'm almost positive I am. But it's just my personal opinion that lesbians are not the same as gays who are not the same as trans were not the same as queers. One has nothing to do with the other. I could just be feeling this way out of a sense of fear, for some reason not wanting to be associated with the "strange people" or whatever. But that's what I meant about guilt lumping us all together lends itself to guilt and discomfort, by forcing this expectation that we all feel okay about it, when we don't.
A woman who doesn't label herself as "lesbian" who happens to fall in love with another woman, for example, is probably the more conservative and traditional of all the groups, so how are they going to relate to the radical end of the spectrum? Some do, but I know I don't. The queers and the trans people they're the extreme end of the spectrum, and myself I feel as alien to them as straight people often claim to feel to the entire acronym!
I wish such an acronym didn't exist; I don't like it.
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mls4182 — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 04:17 PM)
I think gay people give you attitude because you're a creepy, voyeuristic troll who hates himself.
I work at a huge company in San Francisco and the gays are so sweet! No, they aren't slutty.
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shango7200 — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 03:41 PM)
I swear- the iPhone "hook-up" aps have KILLED all the sense of "community" that took 40 years to build.
It's infected everything everywhere. I wish it was never invented.
Farewell IMDB boards..now I have to go out and get a life.
"The ENEMY of my ENEMY is my FRIEND" -
sldavies1975 — 9 years ago(January 06, 2017 06:57 AM)
I think it depends on where you socialise. If you hang out in gay bars and clubs then you are more likely to meet shallow peeps that are just looking for short term hook ups. But that's just reflective of the environment and shouldn't be used to judge the whole lgbtiqi population.
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PrometheusTree64 — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 07:11 AM)
I think it depends on where you socialise. If you hang out in gay bars and clubs then you are more likely to meet shallow peeps that are just looking for short term hook ups. But that's just reflective of the environment and shouldn't be used to judge the whole lgbtiqi population.
The desire for "short term hook ups" isn't what makes the bar crowd so shallow and bitter. Many people like "hook ups" yet are perfectly nice people. And yet cliche'd bar queens are indeed hard to handle.
I've noticed most gay guys tend to be either far left or far right politically, one extreme or the other. Their sex tastes, although sometimes vanilla, get weirder and more extreme than most straight folks.
And some of the nicest people, and some of the worst, are gay. (And the worst gay folks hate the nice gay folks most of all, by the way, which is also interesting).
While many, or even most, homosexually-inclined or bisexually-inclined men, are non-stereotypic and don't use the word "gay" to describe themselves. So we tend to leave them out of the behavioral demographic unless we know something about their personal life, or secret sex life.
A lot of people who are attracted to whatever degree to the same sex don't like the mindset in the gay rights movement which chooses to add yet another letter onto the LGBT acronym weekly (nor the demand that we recognize 24, no 35, no 62, different genders) which turns necessary and important social movements into a kind of leftist Dungeons & Dragons game you can't possibly keep up with. And who don't feel the word "queer" (which means abnormal) is constructive.
The point being: there are lots of levels Are gay people more sensitive? Sometimes. Are they more mean-spirited and sadistic? Sometimes. Are they ever bland and boring? Sometimes. Are they easily identified? Sometimes.
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GameBoy_Trismegistus — 9 years ago(February 04, 2017 08:56 PM)
You're talking about gay males, not lesbians of course.
Males are sexually shallow without women to stabilize them. And I say that as a proud gay man who wouldn't change my sexual orientation for all the boy butt in China.
It's just the nature of male sexuality. And it's only made more glaring because there are no women in the scenario.
You gotsta make way for the Homo Superior -
PrometheusTree64 — 9 years ago(February 05, 2017 05:28 AM)
I can't tell if you're kidding. There's nothing intrinsically stable about women and certainly not lesbian relationships.
If anything, I recommend even gay males go MGTOW, let alone straight ones. Especially in the late-Third Wave era. -
ellencontributor — 9 years ago(February 05, 2017 10:18 AM)
Why in the world would anyone go MGTOW? If this means what I think it means, it means foregoing love and companionship to be alone and pursue ones own ends. How is that something that should be encouraged?
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GameBoy_Trismegistus — 9 years ago(February 05, 2017 09:44 PM)
You're trying to tell me that women are not the foundation of a stable household? Mothers with children do not have a larger stake in monogamy than their husbands? That's ridiculous. The female is tied down by pregnancy and children in a way that the male is not.
And stats show that lesbian relationships are more stable than gay male relationships.
Please, as I said, I love the freedom of being a gay male. But our sexuality is shallow and promiscuous but also freer because we are not tied down by women, and their children.
You gotsta make way for the Homo Superior -
PrometheusTree64 — 9 years ago(February 07, 2017 07:06 AM)
You're trying to tell me that women are not the foundation of a stable household? Mothers with children do not have a larger stake in monogamy than their husbands? That's ridiculous. The female is tied down by pregnancy and children in a way that the male is not.
And stats show that lesbian relationships are more stable than gay male relationships.
Please, as I said, I love the freedom of being a gay male. But our sexuality is shallow and promiscuous but also freer because we are not tied down by women, and their children.
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GameBoy_Trismegistus — 9 years ago(February 07, 2017 06:55 PM)
Who said anything about a "white night", or more appropriately, a "white damsel"? Women are slaves of biology in a way which men are not. How many boulevards do you know downtown where women drive up and down the street looking for male hustlers? Sorry, their libidos are different than men's.
As a queer man I embrace my natural male promiscuity. I bet you're one of those pansy fools who wants to get married and adopt little brats.
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PrometheusTree64 — 9 years ago(February 08, 2017 06:18 AM)
As a queer man I embrace my natural male promiscuity. I bet you're one of those pansy fools who wants to get married and adopt little brats.
You seem to make things up and, it would appear, engage in projection. (The irony, for one thing, of someone who uses the term "queer" to define themselves calling someone else a "pansy" is a little bizarre). And I don't know what your assertions about me "getting married and adopting little brats" is supposed to mean, or what it has to do with the topic, but so be it.
Anyway, do stats show that lesbian relationships are less violent than gay male relationships? Or more?
But statistics do bear out that women kill their offspring at a much higher rate than men do. Sure, part of that statistic is no doubt due to the fact that women are the caretakers much more often than men, but it also shows that women will abuse the vulnerable just as quickly as men will, sometimes more in some cases.
So much for myths about stability.
There is also an increasing movement in the black community to acknowledge that one of the key reasons that young black males are so often involved in crime is due not always to poverty and not just because the fathers are so often absent from the home, but also because angry single mothers verbally and physically abuse and castrate the boys 24/7 from birth. (Young girls don't necessarily have it easy in those homes either, but they know that the status of "mama" is right around the corner for them). Naturally, the matriarchal black community is fighting this topic and the ugly truths it reveals.
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bakerstreetdozen — 9 years ago(February 12, 2017 12:49 PM)
You're trying to tell me that women are not the foundation of a stable household? Mothers with children do not have a larger stake in monogamy than their husbands? That's ridiculous. The female is tied down by pregnancy and children in a way that the male is not.
How is a woman capable of offering any more stability to a household than a man is? As a woman myself, I'm seriously asking you. We're not living in some ideological society where all of the women stay at home, cook, clean, take care of the kids, and are always reliable and faithful. Women are 100% capable of cheating on their partners and neglecting, abusing, or abandoning their children. Matter of fact, it happens all the time.
Men are like this too, and some men aren't, just as some women aren't. The point is, there are variables. Some men are the ones who stay home to take care of the family. Some men are way more fit to take care of their children than the mother, and it's a crying shame because the courts still favour the mother over the father in custody battles, even when it's in the child's best interest to be with their father.
Why don't you take a pill, bake a cake, go read the encyclopaedia.