Does It Bother You When Women/Girls Talk About 'Class'?
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titanicsurvivor93 — 15 years ago(February 05, 2011 10:52 AM)
Thorn Harvestar, I couldn't have said it better myself, especially in reference to your Audrey Hepburn comments. I can't tell you HOW MANY TIMES I've come across this scenario. I know a couple of people who say they "like" Audrey Hepburn but can't even list 3 films of hers, THREE!! One girl had it as her background of her computer and when I asked if she knew Audrey Hepburn, she responded, "Who?" Audrey Hepburn was classy, but it wasn't because she dressed or acted a different way, it was something from within. Also, one must wonder how she got along with the stars of that era. I can't really imagine her with Grace Kelly, who was more loose in that era. She was different. No doubt, she must've felt stigmatized, even in the 1950s. Hahah, but I still find it ironic that her most famous film is about a "Bisexual Hooker" and her least famous film is about a Nun
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It's all image. Guys want a nice girl but they do NOT want a boring girl. Girls feel that in order to look nice, they have to look classy. However, once they get the guy(s)' attention, they tend to like a little more pormiscous. Of course, the guy's not going to complain. Her friends might complain behind her back, but because no one is really saying anything to her face, she is going to go on and feel "sexy". Prostitutes in films dress better than girls in the modern world. I have also found that the classier a girl wants to look, the faker she is and guys tend to go for the fake girls. Maybe that's why divorce rates are so high?
IDK, I feel that we build these subtle man dominated societies, only to fill man's lust and desires. If a girl chooses not to be naked, then she is shunned. First, she gets shunned by men and when women see that men don't want her, the women don't want her either(evolutionary behavior perhaps?).
Yesterday, I was going to one of my classes and I saw this girl wearing a very short skirt and a very thin layer of tights, "texting". Now, this girl didn't even look like a student, she looked like a hooker. I wondered if she was going to school to learn or to show off herself, to sell herself. The latter made more sense to me, but I wondered why she would be at school.
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funnygurl — 15 years ago(February 06, 2011 06:17 PM)
To me, "class" isn't about what you wear (or how much skin you show), or how loud you are, or what music/tv/movies you like. It's about how you view yourself and how you treat others. It's about being OK with yourself; whether you're quiet and reserved, or flashy and attention getting. It's about treating others with respect and not being judgemental.
I would call Audrey Hepburn classy, not because of her clothing style or physical delicacy but because she was a kind person who devoted herself to helping those less fortunate than herself. However I wouldn't call people like Marilyn Monroe, Miley Cyrus, Anne Hathaway or Lady Gaga trashy per se. I think someone like Marilyn Monroe was very talented and had a very unhappy life. She had elements that make her classy (like talent and intelligence) but also a lack of self respect which was most likely the result of some of the circumstances of her life. Without knowing the reasons people make the decisions they do, no one should make those judgemnts. The same goes for the other celebs mentioned: is someone trashy because she does a nude scene on film? Or because she gets pregnant outside of marriage? To me a truely classy person understands that things aren't always that black and white, that people have reasons for what they do, and doesn't condemn or make moral judgements about others.
When I think of "class" I think of an attitude: not a sense of superiority, but of knowing you own worth and using your gifts to help others when you can. A classy person will make someone feel good about him/herself, not inferior. I guess I'd say that kindness is classy, respect (for oneself and others) is classy, open mindedness is classy and fighting for what you believe in is classy. -
PenelopeTree — 14 years ago(May 06, 2011 09:38 PM)
You are very insightful for your age. What you describe about your peers is a multi-layered thing. It's a reaction of their education: social education much more than school Another thing I notice is how struck these girls are by pop-culture figures, and that is part of the slutiness and attitude.
it is ironic that they are Miley Cyrus clones yet they don't see it. "liberated" And we live in a society now where people do act like they have no authentic ideas of thier own. Ony what comes from pop-culture in all its forms.
I saw a girl texting in the front window of Forever 21. An employee! Sitting there texting in the front window. So I know what you mean by that going too far.
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WaterlooBridge — 14 years ago(August 05, 2011 05:29 PM)
When I was in high school and college (which was 1 year ago) The girls/women that I knew in high school were catty and insecure; in college, they were bland. I never heard girls talk about class. But to me, class is all about attitude. And a good or bad attitude will show how you carry yourself and treat others. Classy is also being thoughtful. Like having manners.
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aniketagg87 — 14 years ago(November 14, 2011 03:10 AM)
Yeah! It do bother me a lot. Have you ever watched 'Mean Girls' where a gang of plastics are there? I watched it days back may be on HBO and now I call such gang as Plastics! And plastics can't remain happy for long when they find emptiness in their life when they just turn onto showbiz!!
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Annie_Chan5 — 14 years ago(January 14, 2012 01:38 PM)
^Thank you. I can't believe you're the first one to point this out. Yeah, lets all judge women on their clothing and how provocative they are. That's constructive. Yay horizontal oppression.
From reading your post, you seem years ahead of your classmates in maturity.
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punjabkumar — 10 years ago(December 22, 2015 09:04 PM)
Yeah! It do bother me a lot. Have you ever watched 'Mean Girls' where a gang of plastics are there? I watched it days back may be on HBO and now I call such gang as Plastics! And plastics can't remain happy for long when they find emptiness in their life when they just turn onto showbiz!!