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As a Schoenberg fan, have you heard her version of his VC? Thoughts?

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    fontinau — 9 years ago(August 05, 2016 08:01 AM)

    Hipsters. Too cool to vote Beethoven 9 into the top spot.
    At least there's no Shostakovich.

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      Jill-McBain — 9 years ago(August 05, 2016 01:09 PM)

      It is the very piece that made symphony what it is and also put it on the same level of sublimity and sophisticatedness as opera. I am not surprised.
      'Ne cherchez plus mon coeur, les bêtes l'ont mangé.'
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        Carl-LaFong — 9 years ago(August 05, 2016 02:39 PM)

        At the risk of sounding like a philistine, where's Dvorak's 9th?!
        You're my wife now.

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          fontinau — 9 years ago(August 05, 2016 11:17 PM)

          At the risk of sounding like a philistine, where's Dvorak's 9th?!
          Good point. Fairly recently, somebody asked me to guess the most played works by American orchestras today. I guessed either Beethoven 5 or 7 (don't remember which) and the New World Symphony. I was wright about the Beethoven - 7 was right on top, followed by 5 - but not even close on Dvorak. Maybe people are burning out on him?

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            Carl-LaFong — 9 years ago(August 06, 2016 07:58 AM)

            As long as fud-slush is still a fan, that's all that matters!
            You're my wife now.

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              christomacin — 9 years ago(August 09, 2016 05:16 AM)

              Mahler's 3rd? Nice music movement by movement, but I feel not as convincing as a collective whole. Mahler's Symphonies 4-6 are the zenith of his symphonic output, in my opinion.

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                Edward_de_Vere — 9 years ago(August 09, 2016 07:05 AM)

                Mahler's 3rd? Nice music movement by movement, but I feel not as convincing as a collective whole. Mahler's Symphonies 4-6 are the zenith of his symphonic output, in my opinion.
                Having three Mahler symphonies out of ten on the list is a little excessive to begin with. One of his works (in my opinion the 5th or 6th) should be in the top 10, but you aren't going to convince me that three of the ten greatest symphonies ever written were Mahler's, particularly not the 3d.

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                  Carl-LaFong — 9 years ago(August 09, 2016 07:52 AM)

                  Nielsen's 4th?
                  I love that.
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                    Ana_Banana — 9 years ago(August 13, 2016 01:59 PM)

                    Where is Bruckner?!
                    Admittedly, a top 10 is not enough for symphonies. Happy we!
                    Is this bothering you?

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                      fontinau — 9 years ago(August 13, 2016 04:49 PM)

                      Where is Bruckner?!
                      In my perfect world, off somewhere writing more short pieces for chamber ensemble instead of symphonies:

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                        Ana_Banana — 9 years ago(August 14, 2016 04:57 AM)

                        Nice, but if Mahler (and Tchaikovsky!) made it to the symphonies Top, so much more should Bruckner.
                        Is this bothering you?

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                          Edward_de_Vere — 9 years ago(August 18, 2016 11:30 AM)

                          I've often said something similar about Verdi, as I'd rather listen to Verdi's string quartet than to
                          La Traviata
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                            SapphEyeR — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 09:57 AM)

                            I had the great pleasure of hearing it live for my first time this summer. Tanglewood Music Fellows were the performers, including the conductor. Students, but exceptionally talented, many destined for world-class careers.

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                              SapphEyeR — 9 years ago(September 12, 2016 07:34 AM)

                              I dislike "greatest" lists and ranking things, especially in the arts. But it gives people something to talk about.
                              I hope something by Bruckner made the top 20. Maybe I'll bother to look sometime. Either his 7th or 8th symphony should have made the top 10 in my opinion.

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                                Jill-McBain — 9 years ago(September 12, 2016 05:10 PM)

                                I dislike "greatest" lists and ranking things, especially in the arts.
                                I hear you and I agree with you. Nonetheless, Eroica and Ludwig Van have a special place where symphony is concerned.
                                'Ne cherchez plus mon coeur, les bêtes l'ont mangé.'
                                Baudelaire

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                                  SapphEyeR — 9 years ago(September 13, 2016 02:21 PM)

                                  Each conductor was asked to name his or her top three symphonies in any order before the magazine processed that into a top 20.
                                  If the conductors answered honestly, the Eroica is highly regarded, though maybe not #1 for everyone.
                                  I would put my two Bruckner symphonies (7 and 😎 in the top 10, take away one Mahler and the Berlioz - just because something is scored for 20 horns and two tubas doesn't make it worthy. I think they just wanted something French on the list to balance out all the Germans and Austrians.

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