You can read it here
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Crashout — 7 months ago(August 17, 2025 03:24 PM)
The issue is France and their own Oscar's equivalent, and Sophie's opinion that the French culture is far too sophisticated and refined to participate in an awards show where their film industry recognizes its own. My remarks towards Sophie was basically sarcasm.
I don't need any explanation about diplomacy between France, Vietnam and the US. That has nothing to do with the discussion.
Reply directly about my attitude towards Sophie's comment please and quit playing games with me. I don't have eternity ok?
Get on with the original discussion.
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Phaenon — 7 months ago(August 17, 2025 03:28 PM)
The OP is asking about why France took longer than Germany, Italy, and the UK to catch up to the US with an International award ceremony.
Comparability is key here Donna
All I was doing was finding something that you and your French cousins could use as a shared history; the occupation of Vietnam
Ding Dong
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Crashout — 7 months ago(August 17, 2025 03:43 PM)
Okay you have one last time to get to the ****ing point. I don't have eternity for these discussions. Maybe you have 30 years left to **** around "Hemming and hawing".
If I read anything to the contrary I'm ignoring you going forward. Now answer the OP's question.
Hint: he didn't ask what you tried to rephrase here..
The OP is asking about why France took longer than Germany, Italy, and the UK to catch up to the US with an International award ceremony.
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Phaenon — 7 months ago(August 17, 2025 03:45 PM)
I have answered the OPs question Donna
You can read it here
I thought you were bringing your own tangential discussion into this. I'm sorry, I don't mean to whittle away your limited time on this Earth.
Peace out and enjoy yourself!
Ding Dong
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Crashout — 7 months ago(August 17, 2025 05:55 PM)
I don't know why those other countries have an equivalent to Hollywood's Oscar.
I do understand that the primary purpose for Louis B. Mayer creating The Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences was to offer an solution to labor disputes and unions within the film industry at that time. The Oscar ceremony was just an after thought considered to be a "perk" that came with membership.
As for why other countries copied us? I have no idea. Do you???
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Crashout — 7 months ago(August 17, 2025 06:02 PM)
I thought you were bringing your own tangential discussion into this. I'm sorry, I don't mean to whittle away your limited time on this Earth.
It's fine now.
I'm delighted the Lumière brothers created motion pictures because I love it so much. Americans took it and did our own thing. Just because we are allies with the French doesn't mean that I gotta kiss their asses, right? I've never been the type to grovel at the feet of anyone other than my own mother and kids.
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dbentley666 — 7 months ago(August 17, 2025 03:53 PM)
French films belong in a different category from American films. They are far more intellectually sophisticated, for one thing. You might argue that the Oscars actually contribute to the mediocrity of American films. Most Oscar winning films tend to be sentimental nonsense like Schindler's List, Forrest Gump, Rain Man, and Shawshank Redemption, or historically laughable films like Ben Hur or Saving Private Ryan. Very occasionally a truly great film like Citizen Kane will make it (one Oscar!).
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LouvrePigeon — 7 months ago(August 17, 2025 05:04 PM)
Funny you say this considering one of the examples, Ben Hur, is one of the
highest grossing movies of all time in France
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dbentley666 — 7 months ago(August 17, 2025 05:37 PM)
You probably think this is a disingenuous argument, but I'd say the French (and the Italians, even more) have a weakness for American crap (think the spaghetti Western and all those Italian muscle movies starring some American ass on steroids), that doesn't really indicate respect so much as a kind of slumming. Many French are almost embarrassed by their rep as intellectuals and think they're being "real" when they revel in camp and American sentimentalism. Besides, the French are famously in bad shape physically, and love all the bronzed bodies on display in movies like Ben Hur.
Deep down, they know they have (or had) intellectuals like Sartre and Francois Truffaut who are at the very top….