Does This One Have A Gay Angle????
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beesting_12_dot — 19 years ago(July 23, 2006 01:16 PM)
Nope. Not at all true. First of all, the two main characters are both in love with women. Second of all, this "gay angle" is probably based on the kiss that the two men share when one of them is dying. But it is in no way homosexuality. It is just a kiss goodbye between best friends.
Hope this answers your question well!
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alxnrth — 18 years ago(February 04, 2008 07:35 PM)
God!!
I can't believe how people fixated on this ompletely irrelevant aspect of WINGS!
if they were gay. . .who cares? I think they were profoundly close friends. Can you PLEASE underastand the goodbye kiss bwtween friends who knew they'd never see each other again in this life. I don't think its too much of a stretch.
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Theoden_of_ODU — 18 years ago(February 10, 2008 08:17 PM)
if they were gay. . .who cares? I think they were profoundly close friends.
The problem is they weren't - at least there's nothing that points to this except our confused 2008 mentality. People with agendas love to shoehorn their POV into films.
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simstapundit — 18 years ago(February 06, 2008 03:46 PM)
I'd like to be able to say "this movie has an outrageously gay angle!" and then describe how it starts gay, stays gay, and is especially gay in the end. But then viewers will dismiss the exceptional cinematography, outstanding (non-gay) story, amazing direction, and all the other factors that made this one of the most deserving Oscar winners of any decade.
So no man, there's nothing gay in it. Not to worry. -
twistedude — 18 years ago(February 04, 2008 10:20 PM)
..what rwsmith29456 said.
I'm getting ready to say, based on Jack's changing attitude toward a third, minor character, that it may have been expressly includedbut by whom, and why, given the cast, the plot and directorI haven't a clue! Which is why I'm reluctant to discuss it.
So why don't I just shut up and go watch "Sunday, Bloody Sunday"?
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FilioScotia — 18 years ago(March 04, 2008 01:56 PM)
In those days, society allowed men to have emotions, and to express love and affection for each other. The very same way women are allowed today. Men who were close friends could embrace each other the way women do with their close friends. Nobody thought anything about it.
David's death scene was played that way. A man lay dying in his best friends arms. Nothing gay about it. -
twistedude — 18 years ago(March 04, 2008 08:42 PM)
"In William A Wellman's "Wings," (1927), Richard Arlen and Charles "Buddy" Rogers have a more meaningful relationship than either of them have with Jobyna Ralston ot Clara Bow, both token love interests whom male adolescents all over America correctly identified as 'the boring parts' of the movie. In fact, Arlen and Rogers have the only real love scene in "Wings," and Rogers learns the true meaning of love through his buddy"
Vito Russo, The Celluloid Closet (1981)
I don't think the actors or the director or the writer meant to make a gay scene. I doubt that it played that way for most of the audience, but I wasn't there, and I assume you weren't, nor Russo (though he may have "sourses"seems to be claiming he did), and I imagine gays in the audience were turned on by it, as I was.
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FranLovesBetteD — 12 years ago(August 11, 2013 08:46 AM)
"and I imagine gays in the audience were turned on by it, as I was".
You can bet on it!
I saw this movie yesterday for the very first time in my life, and that death scene was by far one of the most passionate I've ever seen. OMG, the way Jack was holding and caressing David was truly sensuous, and I must confess I was really hoping that he would kiss his lips before he died.
Animal crackers in my soup
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Eponymous-too — 17 years ago(May 03, 2008 05:03 PM)
Only if you bring an agenda with you when you watch the movie. Other than a very brief shot of two female extras who are obviously "together" (and one of them dressed as a man) there is no gay angle to this movie.
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xenophile2002 — 17 years ago(June 08, 2008 05:43 PM)
Does
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
have a gay angle? You have these two guys hanging out with each other a lot and one's named Butch and the other is named Sundance
Do the
Rush Hour
movies have a gay angle? Lee and Carter sure do spend a lot of time together.
What about
Brokeback Mountain
? Just because these two guys
forgetimentionedthatone
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Adler-99 — 13 years ago(May 02, 2012 01:17 PM)
"Other than a very brief shot of two female extras who are obviously "together" (and one of them dressed as a man) there is no gay angle to this movie."
I'm glad someone else noticed this in the cabaret/nightclub scene. I loved that scene for how the camera moved over the series of little bistro tables and gave the briefest of glimpses of those couples. -
magic8ball2112 — 13 years ago(May 30, 2012 10:21 AM)
Uh, no. They're 2 "best bud" guys, nothing more.
America's so sexually repressed that its surprising folks aren't re-evaluating all buddy pictures, trying to find gay subtexts in the plot! What next, that friggen
Lethal Weapon
's Mel Gibson & Danny Glover's characters were knockin' boots in between scenes!? -
Skye_Reynolds — 13 years ago(February 28, 2013 03:12 PM)
Not only does he hold his dying friend in his arms like he's cradling a lover, but he strokes his hair, kisses him on the cheek, and holds his mother inches away from his friend's throughout much of the talking. Even after mentioning the women they both love, one of them states that their friendship with one another was more important.
To be honest, I was surprised when nothing was mentioned about it in the trivia section. I expected to read that the director himself was a homosexual and had inserted that scene. In any event, it was a very touching scene. Straight, gay, bi, male or female, it was a great parting scene for two individuals very close to one another. I thought it had a lot riding on it. -
rsbrandt — 13 years ago(March 04, 2013 02:20 PM)
I don't think so. There's a reflection of this scene in the ending of another William Wellman's films, "The Story of G.I. Joe," where a soldier's parting caress of a fallen comrade's face is almost shockingly intimate, but I don't think Wellman intends us to read any suppressed homosexuality in it. I think he's onto something much more here: that men who have been through the hell of war together have formed bonds stronger than anything they'll encounter back in civilian life. (In the latter scene, there's something almost maternal about the way the soldier buttons and straightens his dead comrade's collar. Same thing.)
Of course, we're free to read any homosexual subtext we like into stories of male bonding, intentional or otherwise. -
preppy-3 — 12 years ago(May 07, 2013 08:11 AM)
Nothere's no gay angle here BUT I can see why people think there is. The way those guys are going on in the end seems laughable and downright homoerotic nowadays. However (back then) it was perfectly OK for guys to cry, kiss and hold each other without people thinking they were lovers. Still people think it's a gay love story. Hell they show the clip at the end where he's dying in the excellent docu "The Celluloid Closet" which was about gays in movies!