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why does Dorothy miss Scarecrow most?

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    FatherMulcahyFan — 10 years ago(November 21, 2015 07:16 PM)

    Maybe it's because he was the first one she met and with her on the journey the longest.

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      Weber4278 — 10 years ago(November 21, 2015 07:25 PM)

      Well you can have several friends, but their is usually one who you have a deeper bond with (maybe the one you've known the longest) whom you consider to be your 'best friend'.
      No different with Dorothy, the three were her friends but Scarecrow was her best friend. She'd known him the longest and therefore had a deeper bond with him.

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        gph317-2 — 10 years ago(November 22, 2015 05:52 PM)

        It was part of a subplot during the Kansas sequence in which Dorothy and Hunk had a romance brewing. That line at the end when she whispers in his ear was a reference to that. Although the subplot was scrapped that line was kept in.

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          Beau_Buffet — 10 years ago(March 24, 2016 08:34 PM)

          It seems like a joke but it's very true.
          Another scene, which was removed before final script approval and never filmed, was a concluding scene back in Kansas after Dorothy's return. Hunk (the Kansan counterpart to the Scarecrow) is leaving for agricultural college and extracts a promise from Dorothy to write to him. The implication of the scene is that romance will eventually develop between the two, which also may have been intended as an explanation for Dorothy's partiality for the Scarecrow over her other two companions. This plot idea was never totally dropped, but is especially noticeable in the final script when Dorothy, just before she is to leave Oz, tells the Scarecrow, "I think I'll miss you most of all."
          SOURCE: Hollywood Reporter, Oct. 20, 2005

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            WorthlessKnowledge — 10 years ago(November 22, 2015 09:54 PM)

            A budding romance between "Hunk" (The Scarecrow) and Dorothy? YES, the last poster is correct.
            A proposed 'arc' in the film had these two flirting with romance. Apparently part of the {intended} ending showed "Hunk" the farmhand going off to college, and they part ways there in a similar way. So the ending's farm scene (with their budding romance evident) was fore-shadowed by the departure of Dorothy from The Emerald City (and The Scarecrow).
            When you put that together, it really just makes sense when she says the 'I'll think I'll miss you most of all' - she has more 'feelings' for The Scarecrow, cause in her Kansas life she does for "Hunk" also! Oh, and the way she says that line it's just SO sweet and lovely, it's akin to her singing again (tears!).
            This romance was apparently planned to be part of the movie, but it was -in effect- completely cut from the final print of the film. But I found the entire romance-connection theme fascinating, and enjoyed studying about it!

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              ralpmg — 10 years ago(November 27, 2015 01:32 PM)

              Also he was the most Human. One was a big tin box and the other was an animal. She met him first, he sung the best song also

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                marvelass — 10 years ago(December 01, 2015 10:07 PM)

                Well, yeah, the original intent was to have a budding romance between Hunk and Dorothy back in Kansas, which was reflected in Oz by a strong bond. But since they scrapped that subplot, thus, it has no bearing on the final product. Remember, screenplays go through many rewrites/revisions. Think of alternate/proposed scenes as rough drafts, with the finished product as the final draft. In the end, it's the finished movie that matters. So, keeping that in mind, just judging the final result, I have to agree with
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                that Dorothy was going to miss Scarecrow the most because she'd known him the longest.
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                  ehg974-773-341306 — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 09:41 AM)

                  Really? I have NEVER heard this before, but I guess I can see it being true.
                  I always did think it odd that the three farmhands are very prominent in her dream, where there's no Oz counterparts to Uncle Henry and Auntie Em.

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                    AutumnCider — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 12:05 PM)

                    I have heard about the original Hunk/Dorothy romance before. I think that, originally, they intended to have Hunk be a bit younger than he was in the final film (the character was originally prepping for college,) and Dorothy be a bit older (maybe closer to Judy Garland's own age.)

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                      Gubbio — 10 years ago(December 02, 2015 03:18 PM)

                      Why does Dorothy say she will miss him most?
                      I always believed it was because he took a leadership role and did most of the thinking for the group in spite of not having a brain!
                      He was more like an adult someone Dorothy could look up to while Tin Man was always crying and Lion was always nervous and scared. Those two needed more support than they gave.

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                        demonlord6696 — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 10:33 PM)

                        I think it's implied he has Down syndrome or autism so I don't know if she's just saying that to him or if she feels sorry for him.

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                          BuzzLightYear123 — 9 years ago(April 04, 2016 07:44 PM)

                          What? LOL

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                            tmaj48 — 10 years ago(December 20, 2015 11:39 AM)

                            She had a roll in the hay?
                            I'm not crying, you fool, I'm laughing!
                            Hewwo.

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                              NobodymournstheWicked — 10 years ago(March 27, 2016 06:51 PM)

                              He was the one that she was closest to the most out of all 4 of them, plus she was the first one out of the trio that she met on her journey to get the Wizard of Oz to help her get back to Kansas.

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                                smithgdwg-164-181238 — 9 years ago(May 30, 2016 06:09 PM)

                                kind of a b*tch move in front of Tin Man and the Lion.

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                                  alonzo9772 — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 06:48 AM)

                                  I also find that moment awkward to watch. Lion and Tin Man were right there, and they couldn't help it that they weren't the first ones that she met.

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                                    Gubbio — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 09:09 AM)

                                    I also find that moment awkward to watch. Lion and Tin Man were right there, and they couldn't help it that they weren't the first ones that she met.
                                    I think it was supposed to be a "stage whisper." That is, the character speaks so that the audience can hear but
                                    those others present are supposed to be out of hearing range
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                                    Suspension of disbelief.

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                                      ramsplp — 9 years ago(June 22, 2016 05:10 AM)

                                      She met him first.

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                                        Gubbio — 9 years ago(June 22, 2016 03:00 PM)

                                        You have to look at this logically:

                                        1. If Scarecrow weren't made of hay, the Witch wouldn't have lit him on fire.
                                        2. If the Witch didn't light Scarecrow on fire, Dorothy wouldn't have flung the bucket of water on him.
                                        3. If Dorothy didn't fling the bucket of water, none of it would've inadvertently splashed onto the Witch.
                                        4. If water hadn't splashed on the Witch, she never would have melted.
                                        5. If the Witch hadn't melted, Dorothy would not have obtained the broomstick.
                                        6. If Dorothy had not obtained the broomstick, she would have nothing to offer the Wizard in order to get back home.
                                          In summary, at that point in the story, Scarecrow helped Dorothy achieve her goal. Therefore, she would miss him the most.
                                          It's all cause and effect.
                                          It must be hell inside your head.
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