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petelato — 17 years ago(October 20, 2008 07:54 AM)
Hey Shroudoffrost,
Thank you for the kind words.
I have posted about several movies, and this, without a doubt, has been the one people feel the most passionate about and respond to. I find that amazing, this movie really strikes a chord.
I just may have to go back and re-watch it-some movies takes 2 viewings to get.
My brother once took me to a movie a few years back, "The Thin Red Line", he loved it and wanted to see it again with me. When that movie was over, I turned to him and said,"what did I ever do to you that you made me watch this movie"
That is one flick that you could not PAY me to see twice.
Off topic, I did see a very good romantic movie recently that many people seemed to have missed when it was out just a year or 2 ago. "The Painted Veil", with Ed Norton and Naomi Watts. It was wonderful. If you have not seen it, check it out.
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ShroudOfFrost — 17 years ago(October 20, 2008 05:22 PM)
I was kind of curious about that flick, but I will definitely give it a try. Perhaps you will like Wuthering Heights if you watch it a second time or maybe you won't. There are just some movies that people don't like. For example, most people absolutely love The Dark Knight and I thought it was mediocre. More than that I did not like The Departed. Like I said, Wuthering Heights just might not be your thing, but honestly I enjoyed the book much more than the movie.
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petelato — 17 years ago(October 20, 2008 08:42 PM)
I totally agree about Dark Knight being mediocre, and that was being kind.
And the Departed was awful, what a waste of talent. So we might appreciate the same quality in movies, good to see someone with taste in movies.
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enbilal — 17 years ago(October 23, 2008 09:45 AM)
petelato, it seems you toned down the rhetoric (to use the presidential campaign terms) in comparison with the original post. So people are not sheep if they liked this movie, after all. I've seen it maybe a ten years ago when I was in high school, so I don't remember it that good. I didn't hate it, but I know I was disappointed with the film ending in the middle of the story. As an adaptation, I prefer the 1992 version.
Now to your favorite films list. It doesn't support your initial arrogance towards the other posters here. I know you've seen Wuthering Heights, but you should see more films older than 1990's. I am impressed that somehow you and the masterpiece that is The Thin Red Line crossed the paths, even though you hated it. I agree on Dark Knight and Departed, though.
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rstanfie — 17 years ago(November 04, 2008 12:56 PM)
I loved this movie, I saw it before I read the novel and preferred this more moving and tragic love story to the novel whose second half consisted of a tedious incestuous love triangle, and random behavior from Heathcliff.
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silcock-2 — 17 years ago(November 05, 2008 03:25 AM)
^^^ Saying this movie is better than the novel is one of the most ridiculous utterances i've ever heard in my life. This movie reduced two of the of most dark and emotionally complex characters in literature into nothing more than over sentimental goody two shoes.
The novel isn't a love story, it's a story of revenge of a man who can't let go of his past. Heathcliff's character development is brillaint. He supposed to be like an animal, not wide eyed romeo type, with a bit of dirt on his face. Don't even get me started with all the morality they tried to force down Cathy. She has no conception of right or wrong, that's the point of her.
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narvaezy — 17 years ago(November 16, 2008 06:03 AM)
I know that there are others upset by your review; but we do still live in a country where we have freedom of speech and you have the right to your opinion. But I must say that even though you found the story dull, and the characters horriblethere are those of us who still believe in the kind of love that Heathcliff and Catherine sharedsimply, 'UNDYING LOVE.' We are not blind to the fact that Heathcliff and Catherine were, as you stated, horriblebut the uderlying LOVE that they shared never diedand that is one of the reasons we love the story so.
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petelato — 17 years ago(November 19, 2008 12:13 PM)
I just watched the recent UK version of this story, and I must say, I finally got a feel of the surreal love the story was trying to depict.
There was something hauntingly romantic about it, and hopefully everyone has experienced a relationship that echoes such strong emotions at some point in their life.
Maybe that is why people are so drawn to this, they either have had a relationship that was at least somewhat like this , or maybe they yearn for one.
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brivi77 — 16 years ago(August 12, 2009 01:22 PM)
Has ANYBODY on this board seen this movie when it came out in the 1939's or even grew up with it I read comments & its like you all just watched it recently . I rather watch a classic movie {BLACK & WHITE} than an updated version which I have seen all of them however for me my favorite will always be the 1939 version . regardless if its NOT BASED TRULY on the damn book If I don't feel the emotions of these characters I simply change the channel but with them I don't know something with Heathcliff's arrogances & Cathy's selfishness just drives me crazy making me love this movie to each is own to the movie for me I rather hear somebody who actually lived around the 1930's & saw this movie and not just people who just happen to switch to TMC to watch it. Give me a break. que pantalon!
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rachel70802002 — 16 years ago(August 12, 2009 02:02 PM)
I wish my grandfather was still living bc he saw this in 1939 I am sure since he worked in a theater. I do like this version as well as the new version since I like the acting in it by Tom Hardy who I feel is a very good choice to play a more modern Heathcliff. Olivier did a fine job as Heathcliff of course. I tend to like classics and new versions.
~Rachel~
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g_dekok — 16 years ago(September 19, 2009 05:37 PM)
fr petelato:
Finally, after years hearing about the classic Wuthering Heights I got to see this movie. It is ridiculous. What a contrived story. Cathy and Heathcliff were both horrible people who made everyone miserable really. I think people who love this movie must be disillusion and disenchanted<
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TinorialPeredhil — 16 years ago(November 21, 2009 07:11 PM)
If you were told this story in the real world, in the here and now
I
was
told this story here and now. I didn't have the great opportunity of reading it when it was first published. That does not mean that Healthcliff is not a marvelous character - he is dark and disturbed, but frighteningly in control of his senses. You're supposed to hate Cathy - everyone does. But the novel is glorious, interesting, and timeless. No movie could do it justice. I suggest you treat yourself to reading the novel. This post would embarrass you.
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
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Montmartre1 — 16 years ago(January 24, 2010 07:53 AM)
Life is often filled with sadness and tragedy for a great many people. We are not all the same, different things affect us differently.
Often people are their own worst enemy, as both Heathcliff and Cathy were.
Great fiction is filled with conflict. I write and the first thing I was told was i had to have conflicts for my characters. Understanding this and perhaps reading the novel might help many people to appreciate the power of this story.
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TalosIV — 16 years ago(January 31, 2010 03:39 AM)
OP claims to be 42 but all of his/her favorite films are from the 90s. Methinks we have a youngster hereand that's fine. Many younger people just don't click with older films. For many of them, it's like hearing a foreign language for the first time.
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thegreatgazoo-1 — 16 years ago(January 31, 2010 06:30 AM)
I wouldn't say laughable but having just seen WH for the first time yesterday I came away unimpressed.
Several posters here are projecting the brilliance of the book onto the movie which I think is flawed thinking because a great movie should stand on its own. BTW, I haven't nor do I plan on reading the book.
Other posters have mentioned the movie doesn't live up to the book.
I tend to agree with the concept of the movie being rushed with no real development of the characters. I didn't really care at the end if Cathy and Heathcliffe lived or died.
Al this is IMO and you're free to ignore it.
Edit
So, a few days later after some research I learn the movie completely ignores the next generation aspect of the book. That explains the bizarre and rushed ending of the movie. In any event, I still think the movie is lame.