Can the "average" modern movie goer fairly evaluate Citizen Kane?
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zargmatt-73661 — 10 years ago(October 13, 2015 07:29 PM)
Oh, and 'that'll be the day' I forget John Wayne classics such as The Searchers (John Ford), The Shootist (Co-starring our own Ronnie Howard and directed by Don Siegal another one of Clint Eastwood's mentors along with Sergio Leone) and The Quiet Man, also directed by the heavy weight himself, John Ford. I just love that epic fight at the end of the Quiet Man where they punch each other senseless, busting up half the town. Such a great movie.
Funny thing I noticed in one of the Dollar Trilogy movies (I forget which one), Clint Eastwood uses John Wayne's line "that'll be the day". Made me laugh so hard. I watched most of John Wayne's classic films before ever setting sight on the Eastwood revisionist western films. -
MsELLERYqueen2 — 10 years ago(October 19, 2015 12:28 AM)
Terrific. Lots of great choices listed. So why is it necessary to think that
Citizen Kane
is the greatest film ever when there are so many other good classics out there?
As for me, I'm very fond of mysteries from the 20s, 30s, and 40s. Also film noir from the 40s and early 50s. Lots of great comedies came out in the sixties. I'm not a huge fan of 1970s films. I prefer TV shows from that decade. I even enjoy the occasional "important" film, like
All About Eve
and
The Best Years of Our Lives
.
To me,
Citizen Kane
will never have the same relevance as an episode of
You Can't Do That on Television
.Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen -
amyghost — 9 years ago(December 10, 2016 06:58 AM)
Re: Terrific.
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by MsELLERYqueen2 1 day ago (Thu Dec 8 2016 12:07:46)
IMDb member since June 2004
I only understand Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck. My intelligence doesn't stretch much further than that.Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen = Keep saying that and people will start believing it. 50 Is The New Cutoff Age. -
Jwink72 — 10 years ago(October 10, 2015 01:37 PM)
Mrs queen is a hipster. She hates CK only because its popular among critics and top lists. And she loves to hate it everyday and every chance she gets on IMDb.
Don't give her the time of day, let her waste her life if she wants.
But don't, by any means, ask her to give any reasonable explanation as to why CK deserves hate, or doesn't deserve praise. Don't insult her intelligence. -
Jwink72 — 10 years ago(October 10, 2015 04:54 PM)
That's fine, wonderful.
But I think it's childish and pitiful to return to a board time after time to spend half your life talking about a film you don't like.
Contribute at least something other than how annoyed you are by fans. You may want to get the film banned (not saying you do), but at least contribute why you do. Don't you have films you love you can discuss, or other threads on IMDb? I have nothing against people who don't like it, but you have a strange obsession and it gets annoying. There's a word for people who continue to talk about how you don't like a film, contributing nothing except annoying fans. It's on the tip of my tongue, I think it starts with a t. -
MsELLERYqueen2 — 10 years ago(October 10, 2015 06:12 PM)
shrug
I've been called a troll plenty of times on the CFB (classic film board). Sticks and stones.
Now I'm off to watch episodes of
Sesame Street, Mr. Dressup,
and
The Friendly Giant
. I'm still trying to understand the finer points of the plots of these shows.Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen -
amyghost — 10 years ago(October 11, 2015 06:09 AM)
Re: I just didn't like it. Period.
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by MrsElleryQueen1976 12 hours ago (Sat Oct 10 2015 18:12:03) Flag | Reply |
IMDb member since June 2004
shrug
I've been called a troll plenty of times on the CFB (classic film board). Sticks and stones.
Now I'm off to watch episodes of Sesame Street, Mr. Dressup, and The Friendly Giant. I'm still trying to understand the finer points of the plots of these shows.Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen You've been called one because you are one. Witness your repeated behavior on the Citizen Kane board, and your frequent performances on the Classic Film Board. And as for your project, give it up. It's doomed from the outset. -
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zargmatt-73661 — 10 years ago(October 13, 2015 07:16 PM)
God must be an idiot for challenging people to name movies they enjoy before 1970. Eras don't define greatness. Great films define eras! I can't think of a single decade without great directors and great films. I don't think oldness or newness is good enough to define art. But it certainly is good enough for some people: PERIOD. snicker
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Boomer-Baby — 10 years ago(October 13, 2015 07:37 PM)
Eras don't define greatness. Great films define eras! I can't think of a single decade without great directors and great films. I don't think oldness or newness is good enough to define art.
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zargmatt-73661 — 10 years ago(October 13, 2015 08:42 PM)
Why thank you!
As a bonus, here's what I'm currently listening to National Lampoon Radio Hour:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NAwlepnSs&index=3&list=PL649F2BA40CE69DE9
Great playlist if you like '70s era comedy (Chevy Chase, John Belushi, etc.). Deteriorata was written by Christopher Guest, best known for his role as Nigel in This is Spinal Tap and the six fingered man in Princess Bride, both Rob Reiner movies; and performed by Norman Rose the voice of GOD.
National Lampoon itself was established in 1970 right when Mrs Ellery Queen stopped being relevant. I listen to National Lampoon Radio to remember the great authors of comedy that came to dominate our lives from 1970 until today. -
amyghost — 10 years ago(October 19, 2015 04:17 AM)
Re: I just didn't like it. Period.
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by MrsElleryQueen1976 3 hours ago (Mon Oct 19 2015 00:24:30)
IMDb member since June 2004
I stand by what I wrote here earlier. I didn't like Citizen Kane and that's that.Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen And when you come back over and over again to a board, or boards, to simply repeat that same statement over and over again, you become a trollwhich is precisely what you are at this point. -
zargmatt-73661 — 10 years ago(October 22, 2015 11:10 AM)
Who cares what you think on the subject of Citizen Kane: Only you do. You've provided nothing other than your opinion and self admitted lack of intelligence as proof. Period.
There's absolutely no need to convince a stubborn person of the validity of a work of art. Anyone worth convincing of its validity will have already recognized the facts in the face of pure ignorance. Art on some level is almost always subjective, but in the case of Citizen Kane it's greatness (even if you disagree with the storytelling) is established both historically and technologically as fact.
That's your loss in failing to recognize this.