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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Mrs. Miniver


    Tracertagger — 18 years ago(March 10, 2008 12:20 AM)

    While I find this classic movie great. There is one thing that I found curious in the movie. How long does a rose stay in bloom in England? When the station agent showed Mrs. Miniver and named the rose for here,it was before the war had started. During that time before the award ceremony near the end, The son had joined the Air Forces and completed Flight training, the Dunkirk rescue had taken place, and the Bombing of Britain seems to have been going on for some time.

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      nakasirika — 17 years ago(April 15, 2008 03:41 AM)

      Nice one!
      I hadn't give it a thought yet! But you're right!

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        JoChatting — 17 years ago(May 17, 2008 04:50 PM)

        A rose bush will bloom from about end of May to September and come back every year. It is obviously not the actual flower he should Mrs Miniver which he entered in the competition but one from the same bush!!!

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          mark-1589 — 17 years ago(December 15, 2008 01:28 PM)

          I cannot recall the exact time sequence in the film, but it is clear that the film depicts events spanning at least a year. It begins before the war (it is not exactly clear how long before) which began, at least as far as the UK was concerned, on 3 September 1939. However, actual hostilities did not begin until Germany invaded the Benelux and France in May of 1940, which culminated (at least from the British perspective) with the escape of 300-400 soldiers pinned down at Dunkirk, which is depicted in the film and occurs at the beginning of June, 1940. The finl events of the film occurred sometime after Dunkirk, althoug I am not sure how long after. In any case, that would clear up the time sequence as far as the blooming rose is concerned - the blooming rose at the start of the film was in the 1939 crop, and that at the flower contest was in the 1940 stock. Oh, one more thing. I believe that the flower contest for 1939 was postponed (or do I misremember?). That would explain why Mr. Ballard makes known his intention to enter the flower into the contest in 1939, but his victory only occurred a year later.

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            thbryn — 16 years ago(October 18, 2009 10:31 PM)

            Why did Mrs. Miniver talk the elderly perennial winner into giving the award she won to Mr Ballard? Just because he wanted it?

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              lewis-51 — 16 years ago(December 19, 2009 08:53 PM)

              Because Lady Beldon (and everyone else) could see that that his rose was better. It was a matter of justice over the privileges of the upper class. An important part of the movie was to create sympathy for the British in the minds of Americans. One possible reason people wouldn't have sympathy was because of the English class system - an un-American idea. That's the whole point of the rose contest subplot. It shows that ALL the British deserve our sympathy, that they are all "good guys."

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                rebekahrox — 13 years ago(February 14, 2013 05:49 PM)

                At first I thought this was an oversight as well. Then I realized that the contest was not for a single flower but the variety that Mr. Ballard developed, named the Miniver rose. Mr. Ballard would have picked the the best representation of the rose to enter in the contest. He won for the Miniver rose as a type, not for that one rose.

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