who won?
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man
Chrispy_G — 20 years ago(September 06, 2005 07:27 PM)
this may be a stupid question but is there a winner? do not tell me who just tell me if there is a definate winner, thanks in advance.
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hossey5 — 20 years ago(October 08, 2005 08:08 PM)
Actually,the rushing waters at the movie's final scene durring their epic battle supposedly destroyed them both.Well till they both returned again in HOUSE OF FRANKENSTEIN.Who would have one? Had they both had a chance to battle to the death? I think it could have gone either way.
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Chrispy_G — 20 years ago(March 28, 2006 07:53 PM)
yeah I just caught it on tv the other day, I am kind tired of this crap, I think studios need to pick a clean cut winner in all future vs. movies.
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wallerworld — 18 years ago(April 20, 2007 05:15 AM)
In Siodmak's script, there's no clear winner, and that's how Roy William Neill filmed it. One difference, though. In the script, the Wolf Man breaks his bonds first and goes after the girl. The doctor tries to beat the Wolf Man off with a wrench, when the Monster breaks his straps. The Monster engages the Wolf Man in a battle, allowing Elsa and the doctor to escape. So presumably, the audience is rooting for the Monster to win, so the Wolf Man won't kill the girl. In the finished film, it's the other way around The Monster breaks his bonds first, goes for the girl and the Wolf Man comes to the rescue. Apparently, Neill decided that the Wolf Man was the more sympathetic of the two.
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webfix — 18 years ago(December 18, 2007 06:41 PM)
The water won, didn't it? Drowned them both.
Both monsters were thawed out, though, in the sequel House of Frankenstein!
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mcmacs — 18 years ago(February 20, 2008 10:47 PM)
The point about which Monster was being 'good' and saving the girl, in script vs film, is an interesting one.
But I don't think the Wolf Man was about saving anyone, either way. He was about dealing with his enemy first. Note that in the original WOLF MAN and in HOUSE OF FRANKENSTEIN, his intent towards the ladies in Larry's life was purely murderous. In fact, he did kill Ilonka in the latter. Had he defeated the Monster, Elsa and Frank would have been his next objectives. (still haven't figured why he respects Maleva's space though. geepsy charms, perhaps?) -
ghost_hat — 17 years ago(December 10, 2008 12:30 AM)
I was wondering who won (or would win if uninterupted) as well.
From what we know, and the film seems to support, the Monster
has a higher level of strength than the Wolfman. For the most
part during the fight the Monster tosses him around easily,
slams him into machinery, and appeared to have the upper hand.
However, the Wolfman had a greater ferocity and speed, and
powers of healing. If the fight continued to drag on, it is possible
the Wolfman would begin damaging the Monster, eventually tearing
his patchwork body apart.
But just how long would the fight go on? If it did not finish
before morning, Wolfman would just turn back into good ol' Larry
and get murdalized. It all comes down to timing, in my
opinion.
Since the flood ended the fight prematurely we may never know
what would really have happened in the fictional confines
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Forgotten_Hero — 15 years ago(November 02, 2010 07:19 PM)
I have to say, I much prefer Frankenstein's Monster breaking his bonds first, attacking Frank, and abducting Elsa only to have the Wolf Man prevent his escape. The Wolf Man attacking Elsa was consistent with the earlier concept of the werewolf attacking those whom his human form would hold dear, but I like the concept of the last vestige of Larry Talbot's human side driving him to attack the monster instead as the possession begins to take effect.
As for the winner, this ended as a draw, but we eventually got a winner in the lackluster House of Frankenstein:
Larry Talbot, in human form, turned over a shelf full of chemicals which caught fire and trapped the monster. The film was subpar and the outcome was no different.