Herbie Hawkins and the Father… Gay subtext?
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WhoDo-YouDo — 14 years ago(March 17, 2012 12:03 PM)
Do you mean because Gays usually are much more likely to discuss suicide instead of murder because of all of society's hatred toward them throughout their lives?
That would seem more likely from what you hear in these message boards because Homophobia is too rampant and too widespread thanks to those evil hate mongers, who always get away with it, and certain political parties base their platform upon that hatred. -
PoppyTransfusion — 13 years ago(June 28, 2012 07:36 AM)
I didn't see it but I wouldn't be surprised. I loved their conversations about murdering one another and as Joe's wife says, discussing murder with Herb
it's your father's way of relaxing
! And this is the 'normal' family visited by their murderous uncle!
I'm a fountain of blood
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jreedha — 13 years ago(April 01, 2013 06:03 PM)
Gay as a loaf of Rainbo bread? I like it! And that little purple telitubby? As a $3 bill
Actually, I don't see anything even remotely sexual in these characters - gay or straight.
But that librarian - well, THAT'S another story ! -
nimstic — 13 years ago(July 21, 2012 05:44 AM)
I could not see any gay subtext at all. They'\re just 2 middle aged man having some thrilling topic for their age to talk about. You might ask this because Hitch did something similar in Rope? But I thought that was quite central to the story.
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sublimer13 — 13 years ago(July 31, 2012 04:41 PM)
If you look at their relationship through the perspective of Eve Sedgwick's queer theory, then it is arguable that the two share a far more intimate relationship than what is between Emma and Joseph. The relationship between Herbie/Joseph has more mutuality and enjoyment, so it is a very strong homosocial (same sex) bond, but this doesn't make it sexual, by any means. So, yes, I can see "gay subtext" between the two, but it is not explicitly homoerotic or sexually charged.
"I don't take the movies seriously, and anyone who does is in for a headache," - Bette Davis -
lamont-hard — 12 years ago(May 06, 2013 06:47 PM)
I agree with you, Just another thing where the word Chemistry and other terms related to it can sometimes mean nothing. It's used way to often to describe something that is not even there. I am always surprised by viewers who is not shown romance to deduct it means there is no love.
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knnthln0-556-861648 — 9 years ago(June 26, 2016 05:19 PM)
That's a ridiculous observation. How you could see a gay relationship between those two characters boggles the mind. They were just two men discussing a topic they were both interested in. There was nothing in any scene between the two to suggest a gay relationship IMO.
I know that I am stupid but when I look around me I feel a lot better.