I think it's total B.S. when people claim that colorizing a film ruins the film. Besides being over-dramatic, think abou
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JrnlofEddieDeezenStudies — 15 years ago(December 29, 2010 02:03 PM)
What looks better is not at all beside the point. Films are a visual and aural medium. The way a film looks is a major component in how much I like it. Adding color
can
certainly change one's emotional response, and in this case, I have a more positive emotional and aesthetic response to the film in color. The emotions are in the individual viewer's head by the way, not the film itself. Each person is different there.
You hardly need to repeat that a colorized film is different. That's not at issue. My point is that I like the different version better in this case.
Not everyone's attention is drawn to the same things, whether a film is color or black and white, in its "original" form or not. Your attention might be drawn to different things due to colorization sure. My attention typically is drawn to different things on each viewing anyway, by the way. In this case, I like the experience better when the film is in color, and my attention is drawn to the various things it is drawn to.
B&W cinematography can maybe result in contrast re shadows in a way that a colorization wouldn't, but again, I
like
the colorization better here, so if that's a difference with this film, I like it better without the same kind of contrast in the shadows.
I do not buy the notion of subconscious minds, by the way, and even if I did, I certainly wouldn't buy some oversimplistic universal generalization about colors and emotions, but that's a whole other can of worms.
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jbaker1-2 — 4 years ago(September 02, 2021 04:57 AM)
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Zebra 3 — 12 years ago(November 24, 2013 05:14 PM)
The blood running down the drain in the shower scene of Psycho was actually chocolate syrup, because that's what looked good on the B & W film; should a colorized version of Psycho therefore show chocolate brown "blood"?
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zeeboe82 — 16 years ago(November 29, 2009 07:29 AM)
I prefer the colorized verison. That's the one I always watch.
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JrnlofEddieDeezenStudies — 15 years ago(December 25, 2010 11:30 AM)
Same here. Most black & white films I prefer in colorized versions if they're available.
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lousvr — 16 years ago(December 02, 2009 08:00 PM)
I LIKE BOTH THE COLORIZED AND THE B&W ergo
I HAVE BOTH THE COLORIZED AND THE B&W
I enjoy the movie so much I watch the B&W at Thanksgiving and the colorized on Xmas Eve
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Jokers_Wilde — 16 years ago(December 10, 2009 09:47 AM)
As do I. I tend to watch the colourized version more, though (for some reason).
A local TV station used to play it on Christmas Eve night every year (technically, Christmas Day at midnight). And, even though I had the DVD with just the black & white version, I would stay up to watch it. One year, it was offered in colour.
I was literally blown away! I was constantly looking for the DVD of the colourized version. It was then said it would be released before the holidays a couple of years ago.
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EvilSpaceApple — 16 years ago(December 13, 2009 10:44 AM)
With most b&w films, I would be 100% against colorization. Casablanca? Notorious? Out of the Past? Please.
But Miracle on 34th Street should have been made in color. Christmas looks more Christmasy in color, and the reds and greens would have made it a natural choice for color. B&W adds nothing, in terms of texture, nuance, what have you.
I'm still not for colorizing in principle. But this film is an exceptionfor me.
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nymetsnl2009 — 16 years ago(December 13, 2009 09:22 PM)
Colorizing a BW movie is taking away from it's authentisity.Also when they colorize it, it just doesn't look right. Let's put it this way, if you take a 64 1/2 Ford Mustang and put seat belts in it and put custom wheels and everything else that it didn't have back then it drops it's value. The same goes for movies back then in BW and they get colorized. You also could just watch all the lame remakes in color and don't watch the BW, the original version.
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EvilSpaceApple — 16 years ago(December 14, 2009 06:59 AM)
"By the way if they wanted to film it in color they could have, the Wizard of Oz came out few years before and it is in color. "
Oh, I certainly am aware the technology existed at the time. Which makes me think it was more than likely that it was done in B/W not for artistic but for financial reasons. It was a "small" film, probably conceived mainly as a money maker, so I think the Fox folks felt, well, maximize the profits by filming in B/W..
so yes, if they had wanted to, they would have. My hunch though (and it isn't more than a hunch, I'll admitI have no solid evidence to backit up) is that they didn't want to not b/c they felt it should be black and white but b/c color was more expensive.
I repeat: I am not for colorizing in general. In 99 case out of 100 it does diminish the original. But for a film potentially replete with the glorious colors of the seasonbegining with Kris' red suit, add to that the parade, the decorated tree, the store set, and so onI AM for coloring this film for those who wish to have an idea of what it might have looked like.
As long as it doesn't replace the B/W altogether, which would be a crime.
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CarolVickiFan84 — 16 years ago(December 15, 2009 12:07 AM)
It waas black and White to cut cost because Zanuck didn't have high hopes for the movie, infact he didn't think it was gonig to be hit at all at first.
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EvilSpaceApple — 16 years ago(December 15, 2009 03:33 PM)
Someone mentioned It's a Wonderful Life. I think that if that HAD been made in color, the Potterville sequences would still have had to be in black and white. That would have been a pretty good idea at that, heightening even more the contrast between it and Bedford Falls.
But on the whole the Capra film is not among that small number of films whose colorization I sanction on general principle. Miracle is among them.
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angelgwen16 — 16 years ago(December 15, 2009 10:28 PM)
I like things colorized. If I get to choose then I always choose color. I don't care about how the color looks, I like it anyway.
However, if the only way to watch it is in black and white then I will still watch it. Such as I Love Lucy. I love that show and I deal with the fact that it's in black and white (at least the older episodes) and I still enjoy it nonetheless.
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Voldemort-Weasley — 16 years ago(December 18, 2009 06:02 PM)
The first time i watched it on dvd i watched it in black and white.Then the next time colour,the coloured version wasn't to bad.And it looked good but i prefer it in black and white,as i liked the original aspect of the film.
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MortimerM1928 — 16 years ago(December 22, 2009 01:29 PM)
The answer is very simple. Black and white movies is an art in itself. It took many people to achieve the proper lighting and all that goes into establishing the mood of the scene. It is my opinion that people today lack appreciation for the hard work and creativity that went into creating such masterpieces. To colorize it would be the equivalent of someone coming into you house and redecorating it because they did not like your color scheme. (Especially when you are the creator and owner). Ridiculous right? It's about respecting someone's work. There is nothing wrong in prefering color movies especially since that's what you were exposed since childhood. However , to bastardize someone else's work especially after they poured their heart and soul into it, is criminal.
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angelgwen16 — 16 years ago(December 23, 2009 06:44 PM)
"To colorize it would be the equivalent of someone coming into you house and redecorating it because they did not like your color scheme. (Especially when you are the creator and owner). Ridiculous right? It's about respecting someone's work."
I disagree. Colorizing a movie isn't like someone coming into your home and redorating it. Colorizing is like you BUYING someone's home and THEN redorating it once it is in their posession.
By colorizing a video they aren't dissing it in any way. But back when these movies were made, they didn't have the technology to colorize them. We do. So we changed it once we had the technology to. We didn't change it from black and white simply because we could, but because some people would like to see it in color.
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PillowRock — 16 years ago(December 28, 2009 04:20 PM)
But back when these movies were made, they didn't have the technology to colorize them.
You should learn more about old movies / movie history. They could make color movies then. Plenty of color movies were made before
Miracle
. It was just more expensive to film in color than B & W at the time, so only the "bigger" or more "prestigeous" pictures got the extra money for it.
We didn't change it from black and white simply because we could, but because some people would like to see it in color.
The problem with that reasoning is that you are not seeeing it "in color". Colorized and "in color" are two very different things, and they don't look anything alike. Take a Technicolor film, for example
The adventures of Robin Hood
, and make a "colorized" version of it; convert it to grey scale, and then apply the colorization process to it. Then conpare that colorized version to the original; it will look very different.
Besides which, as I pointed out in my earlier reply, all of the lighting etc. was designed specifically for B & W filming. That all would have been done differently had they been producing a color picture.