(Given that the Native American parts ought to have been played by Native Americans:)
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rokrox — 15 years ago(June 12, 2010 12:07 PM)
Yeah, it's kinda racist to have the white actors get painted to look like American Indians, but it's better than having the Indians portrayed as animals. And Chocise is the most awesome character ever. It's funny that they all talk perfect English with clear American or English accents though.
Debra Paget is really beautiful in this, and I don't think it's paedophilia, as it was mentioned in the movie that she is supposed to be older and she's clearly fully developed.
Oh, and the fact that she gets killed has been called racist. It's not really, and it's not condemming inter-racial marriages, because that's the reason why the peace treaty worked, and Jeffords says in the voice over that she'll always be with him, so their love will never die basically. That shows that even if you hate inter-racial marriages, you can't fight love.
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vpilutis — 15 years ago(February 02, 2011 12:37 PM)
It's funny that they all talk perfect English with clear American or English accents though.
That was explained at the start would you rather have had subtitles?
Its not at all paedophilia white girls got married as young as 12 in the old west.
Some of the frontier laws on marrage were still in affect going into the 1930s
And oh yes Debra was very lovely, a very little lady who kept getting cast with six footers like Steward, Charlton Heston, Vincent Price, John Derek etc
She still with us happy to say, sad to say she became something of a holy roller
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rye-bread — 13 years ago(January 14, 2013 06:01 AM)
Looked her up on Wikipedia. Shes a born again Christian. That can cover a lot of ground. Jimmy Carter, Johnny & June Cash, Kanye West, Mariah Carey, Mr. T, etc. Some genuine, some iffy.
May moi submit the observation that bias against ethnicity, religion, income, gender, etc. is easy to fall into. & sometimes hard to recognize. -
rye-bread — 13 years ago(January 14, 2013 05:20 AM)
Freedom of speech, mon ami. If you got the legal goods on a guy whos no longer alive, on an incident that mightve happened 60 years ago, go for it.
As for the age disparity, thats castings fault. No doubt lotsa stuff went on.
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Herowithgreeneyesandblue — 14 years ago(December 16, 2011 12:15 PM)
Indeed she is beautiful and more so as she gets older and becomes a fully-made woman. Here she's 16/17 and as James Stewart looks older than his 25 years of age, it appears to be "not quite right". A 25 year old with a mature 16 year old has nothing wrong to it as such.
Somebody posted she was 14. That would have been Cry Of The City in which she gives one VERY conservative kiss on the corner of Richard Conte's mouth plus a hug and he doesn't really kiss her back.
There's plenty of items of corrupted interest available to us, but this isn't one of them and I wanted to set it straight.
Of course we don't know what went on behind the curtain. As one model once stated in a sarcastic quip. You "make it" by sleeping with a 50 year old photographer at age 14. Roman Polanski is far more fodder for this kind of thing if you want to look and didn't Woody Allen marry his daughter. So-what.
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deltascorch90 — 14 years ago(March 23, 2012 05:41 PM)
I just knew someone would call a film even like this "racist." I thought that the Apaches were amazing characters of strong honor and integrity, and it must have been quite a revolution at the time to portray them in a sympathetic light. It's all about that context that matters.
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oybth — 13 years ago(April 07, 2012 01:13 AM)
Jeff Chandler almost won the supporting actor oscar for this. In those times, VARIETY used to poll academy members regarding their voting. It reported that Jeff Chandler was a frontrunner, but that George Sanders was rapidly closing the gap. I'm paraphrasing. Of course, Sanders won for, "All About Eve".
Yes, Debra Paget was indeed astonishingly beautiful. She was so under-used in films. I mainly think of her as co-starring with Robert Wagner, or Clifton Webb.
Compare to other movies about Native Americans in those days, this is a refreshing film; and it did win accolades from prestigious groups. -
bradford-1 — 13 years ago(April 30, 2012 08:40 AM)
I am more upset that Jay Silverheels got no screen credit for his role. I understand that whites were routinely cast as Indians back then (at least for the main spekaing parts; there are obviously many Native Americans here as extras). Also, in the opening narration "Jeffords" tells us that the Apaches will be speaking English rather than their native language. They also would've probably spoken some Spanish, too.
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Skye_Reynolds — 10 years ago(February 20, 2016 10:25 AM)
The first time I saw this film, I was blown away by how stunning Debra Paget looked. She was a classic beauty and stellar in every film I've seen her in. She played a similar role in another Fox western, White Feather. In that one, you get to see her bare back in one scene where she's waiting in bed naked for the protagonist.