Lesbian Subtext?
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msilva7-1 — 18 years ago(July 21, 2007 04:34 AM)
I THINK YOUR QUESTION WAS ANSWERED QUITE ADEQUATELY BUT THE LARGER ISSUE SHOULD BE YOUR GUTTER LIFE. YOU MIGHT THINK YOUR WORLD OR EVEN COUNTRY WANTS TO HEAR THIS KIND OF COMMENT IN A PUBLIC PLACE BUT YOU'RE DEAD WRONG. KEEP YOUR DIRTY HABITS TO YOURSELF NEXT TIME, PLEASE. TO THOSE IN DISAGREEMENT, GET A LIFEI'M NO PRUDE BUT PEOPLE LET'S TRY TO SHAPE UP OUR MORALS HERE, WE'VE ALMOST HIT ROCK BOTTOM IN THAT DEPARTMENT.
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dabadoo32 — 18 years ago(July 28, 2007 02:24 AM)
But ya ARE, Blanche, ya ARE a prude.
Also, a homophobe and a bossy little thing, from all appearances.
It was an honest question, and the OP had just as much right to post it as you had to reply in your charming fashion.
If it was up to me, there would be more posters like OP and fewer posters like you, but I do recognize that you have the right to post.
Too bad you don't get that other people do, as well. -
moosefeathers — 16 years ago(August 11, 2009 07:09 AM)
seems to me that stanwyk's character was all WOMAN, who was into men. no leslies here. Monroe's lingering look was more of hint of gladness that there would be naother woman around to bond with.
is all. they were both talking about men and how men were involved in their lives, and how they affected their lives. -
wanted_girl_01 — 18 years ago(November 23, 2007 12:02 AM)
sure to much girl-on-girl porn!
are you serious?
Mae just see herlself in Peg a 20year olg pretty girl with dreams, trapted in the small town,traped by men. feel compassion for her.feel almost pity for herthe way she says the second time that she is beautiful, is like saying "too badwaste you youth and your beauty here"
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pauline-k — 17 years ago(November 23, 2008 08:07 AM)
There is absolutely no hint of lesbian attraction here and yes, you have been watching too much porn. Interesting comment from someone about Monroe's voice. It was earthier to suit a girl working in a fish-cannery; and yes it sounded more natural than the whispery little girl's voice, that would later become one of her many famous hallmarks.
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Jessica_Rabbit69 — 16 years ago(August 12, 2009 11:12 AM)
"I thought I picked on some underlying lesbian attraction. At the beginning of the film Barbara Stanwyck's character "Mae" makes at least two comments, in quick succession, about how attractive "Peggy" (Marilyn Monroe) is. The first time was outside the house and Peggy seems to let the comment go right over her head, but the second time was inside when Peggy goes to the kitchen and gives Mae a lingering look. Anyone else pick up on that or have I been watching to much girl-on-girl porn?"
Yikes, what an idiotic comment. And thanks to (almost) everybody else rebutting it.
Don't want to be picky, but I hate it when quite obvious non-sexual behavior is construed as sexual/homosexual, partly because this type of thinking tends to lead to a sexualization of all human interaction which I think is unhealthy. Seeing homosexuality everywhere also gives a lot of paranoid homophobes a justification for bashing homosexuals.
Having said that, not everybody in this world has to be gay/lesbian (see the ridiculous book "The Celluloid Closet"), even if some activists and fratboys who watch too much girl-on-girl porn would like it that way.
Just as not everybody has to be straight.
But if Goldfinger7967 is looking for a daring gay subtext, why not check out Winnie-the-Pooh. Pooh asks Piglet in "A Blustery Day" to live with him after Piglet gives his house to Owl. Really, it can't get any more obvious than that.
Jessica Rabbit
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msilva7-1 — 18 years ago(March 29, 2008 10:46 PM)
DON'T WANNA HEAR THE GIRL ON GIRL PORN BIT DUDE THAT'S NOT OUR BUSINESS. YOUR SINKING MORALS WILL NEVER BE THE NORM EVEN IN THIS COUNTRY SO KEEP IT TO YOURSELF NEXT TIME. LESBIAN SUBTEXT WAS ENOUGH WITHOUT THE OTHER DETAILS. AND EVEN THEN YOU'RE READING TOO MUCH INTO THIS OUTSTANDING CLASSIC FILM.
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MyMovieTVRomance — 12 years ago(July 28, 2013 09:09 PM)
I always welcome a lez vib in movies and am usually on the look-out for it. However, I have to say that the thought that there was any such indication in this movie never even occurred to me! What dis occur to me, though, was that Barbara thought of May as a sort of little-sister or child. I got the immediate impression that Stanwyck's character felt maternal towards Monroe's. And, that impression was validated to me in one particular scene that really stood out, in which Monroe's character is talking to Stanwyck's, and Stanwyck's character starts getting philosophical, ending her words-of-wisdom with the phrase "Mama's advice."
Now, I will admit that sometimes, even the mama/papa figures in films can be both parental and romantic in nature, sort of like in the 1956 film, TEA AND SYMPATHY. But, in the case of this film, I just don't think that was what was going on.
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hodie — 12 years ago(January 22, 2014 01:54 PM)
I think Monroe's character saw Stanwyck's as a sophisticated woman and admired her for having gotten out of that little town. Stanwyck saw Monroe as a pretty girl whose youth and beauty, like Stanwyck's, were fleeting. I didn't see any lesbian attraction between them at all. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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oknar1977 — 10 years ago(November 28, 2015 02:33 AM)
i think you replaced kindness to sexual attraction in this.
barbara returns with broken dreams and homeless to his brother, uncertain whether she would be kicked out in the street. MM accepted her without a thought, stated barbara was tired - showed empathy with her, offered her coffee and helped her unpack.
however i did pick director's homosexual vibe.
MM's husband prancing around without a shirt and a man talking he would be pregnant, enough said.