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    StrongRex — 15 years ago(November 02, 2010 10:07 AM)

    It's at 7.8 now.

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      pasnat — 15 years ago(November 19, 2010 03:04 AM)

      I just came back from a special screening of West Side Story with a fully restored soundtrack. George Chakiris was there to introduce the screening at the Egyptian Theater in Hollywood.
      After seeing this on the big screen again, I must say I was shocked that this movie isn't at least an 8.5. The cinematography is masterful, and the choreography is the best I've ever seen in a musical. It's never been topped.
      And the music? What musical has ever had a better score?
      Anyone who thinks this movie doesn't hold up well, we all have a right to our opinions and I just can't agree with that. At all.
      Except for the "daddy-o's" and other occasional period slang that has fallen into disuse, this movie hold up extremely well.

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        jagooch — 15 years ago(December 01, 2010 09:30 PM)

        I agree. West Side Story deserves a higher rating, like somewhere in the 8s. I >actually consider this this favourite film musical, and I have several >favourites including Singin' in the Rain and Wizard of Oz, because the music and >dancing never ceases to amaze me. I love the lyrics to Officer Krupkee as well, >and I agree, Russ Tamblyn was awesome as Riff. I also saw him in tom >thumb(1958), he was great in that too and the film is a lot of fun and very >underrated, and he was excellent in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers too.
        'deserves' doesn't really apply in the realm of ratings, as each person should rate it according to their impression of the movie, and not according to some external standard another person has set.
        There is no way to enforce this, but let's encourage people to "vote their heart" and not "vote our heart" or just vote a certain way because it's the opinion of the majority.

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          PillowRock — 15 years ago(December 07, 2010 02:57 PM)

          I have no problem with everyone voting according to their own honest opinion and letting the chips fall where they may.
          However, people who vote so as to try to "correct" the average to match their opinion more closely (for example: think it is a 6, see an IMDb average of 7, so vote 1) would be banned from voting for life if I were the Omnipotent God of the IMDb.
          The same thing would apply to people who vote down a movie (which they may not even have seen) in an attempt to get one of their personal favorites to leapfrog it in the Top 250. Also, anybody creating multiple accounts so that they can vote multiple times should also have all of their accounts banned from voting.
          Basically, any attempt to manipulate the rating average (instead of just a straight-up vote) would permanently invalidate all of that person's movie poll votes, in a perfect world. The fact that a non-trivial amount of such garbage goes on is why the IMDb ratings are one of the more meaningless ratings of movies around.

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            demon-everlasting — 15 years ago(December 27, 2010 04:28 PM)

            I've seen way better movies on IMDb with way lower rating. The people on this site are cynical and vengeful at best, giving movies one star because they don't like the director or an actor and never actually bothering to see the movie. Be happy that it has 7.7 stars, because it doesn't get much better than that. Even Finding Nemo, which for a long time had 100% on Rotten Tomatoes, only has half a star more than West Side Story. And, plus, a lot of people absolutely abhor this movie because they absolutely abhor the show in general. When I even broached the subject of /wanting/ to do this show at school on facebook, within minutes, half the theatre department gave the show a big "hells no". I like it. You like it. Some people do not like it.

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              braveulysses — 15 years ago(April 01, 2011 12:36 AM)

              That's really strange, I've been acting and performing for over ten years and I don't think I've ever talked to someone involved in theatre that doesn't like West Side Story. In my experience it seems to be one of the best-loved musicals by theatre people.
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                boone727 — 15 years ago(March 30, 2011 07:25 AM)

                The play is ten times better than the movie. There are many plays that they turned into movies that worked very well. But they tried to make the movie too much like the play instead of making it a movie, and so the play was much better.

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                  StrongRex — 15 years ago(March 30, 2011 08:30 PM)

                  Uhno. The play was awkwardly written, had poor song arrangement, and had inconsistencies with characters and situations. The movie made all that better.
                  Also, have you even seen the play? Parts of it are NOTHING like the movie.

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                          friendoffilm — 12 years ago(March 30, 2014 04:08 AM)

                          Frankly, I think at at least an 8 or 9 rating by imdb would've been far more suitable than a 7.7 rating for
                          West Side Story
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                          West Side Story
                          , imho, is an equally beautifully musical, on stage and on screen. As a devout fan of the film West Side Story who has seen several stage productions of this musical and who largely enjoyed the more up to date Broadway
                          stage
                          revival of
                          West Side Story
                          , I viewed this particular Broadway stage version of WSS with a harder, more critical eye than many, if not most people.
                          I also believe that the fact that
                          West Side Story
                          was kept as sort of a larger-than-lifesized piece of theatre when it was transferred from live stage to screen is one of the strengths of the film version of
                          West Side Story
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                                PillowRock — 14 years ago(May 04, 2011 02:15 PM)

                                Back then this type of thing may have been acceptable to "sensitive" audiences
                                What are you talking about "acceptable" and "audiences" for? Do you have any sense of movie history?
                                This is 1961, which is several years before the Production Code was scrapped in favor of the ratings system.
                                What "sensitive audiences" would find "acceptable" could not possibly be any less relevant. The producers and writers working on the
                                West Side Story
                                movie never made any choice / decision to "downplay" the language. If you wanted the movie to be released in American theaters, then replacing the profanity was an absolute, ironclad requirement of the censorship rules that were still in place at the time.
                                Is your main complaint with
                                On the Waterfront
                                that the dock workers aren't swearing? Is
                                The Enemy Below
                                ruined because the sailors never swear?

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                                  deacam-1 — 14 years ago(July 31, 2011 02:50 PM)

                                  This film is and will always be a masterpiece!

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                                    DiamondLove — 14 years ago(August 02, 2011 01:28 PM)

                                    This movie is a 10!
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                                      lil_alex_8 — 14 years ago(August 02, 2011 08:43 PM)

                                      saw this last night in 70mm on the big screen
                                      made me appreciate this beautiful classic even moreI had goosebumps the ENTIRE way through.it deserves at least an 8.5

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                                        Sophitia36 — 14 years ago(September 24, 2011 03:23 AM)

                                        I also think it's a masterpiece. For me, there is absolutely no other musical that can come even remotely close to matching the awesomeness of West Side Story (or if there is, I have not seen it yet).
                                        The songs are all top-notch and very diverse.
                                        The dancing is incredible, and it's the only musical I've seen that truly integrates dancing and does not just use it as some kind of gimmick.
                                        The story is touching, it is socially relevant, and the actors are great (yes, the couple is naive and a little bland, but remember, it's a Romeo and Juliet story and that's the way they're supposed to be).
                                        The structure is also amazing. And although I've never seen the play, I've seen a documentary about the changes they made for the film and I think every single change was a genius idea.
                                        For example, bringing in the boys for America was the best idea ever. It seems to me that that scene would be so boring without them, just endless praising of life in America by the Puerto Rican girls
                                        Moving "Cool" was also a great idea. It's perfect where it is.
                                        And I also heard that the version of "Tonight" sung on the balcony by the two lovers had been written for the movie, and that origially it was "One Hand, One Heart". Well, I think "One Hand" is the weakest song by far, while "Tonight" is a brilliant piece of music, so I support that change 100%.
                                        Now, forgive me for the very elitist comment I am about to make. But I feel one of the reasons why the rating is so low is that movie goers sometimes have no true appreciation of things like awesome dancing or great music or things that are a bit old and dated.
                                        When I hear people complain about the opening sequence, or even say that they did not even watch the movie because they could not be bothered to wait until the end of the prologue I don't know what to say. The prologue is a wonderful example of the use of music and dancing to tell a story, to me it's not boring in any way.
                                        I tend to think that people who can't sit through that either have no appreciation of that kind of cultural stuff, or have the attention span of a goldfish or maybe they just hate the jazz-y style of the movie's music and dancing.

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                                          CCRider01 — 14 years ago(September 30, 2011 08:17 PM)

                                          Typically most movies are down rated on IMDB by under 18 and over 45 females (hard to please?), but West Side Story is more downrated by males 45 and under.
                                          This film seems to be universely liked by all ages, but most likely LOVED by those people over 45 who perhaps saw it for the first time as a kid.
                                          I loved West Side Story when first viewed as a kid, and still do, but I can see why others might find it dated and a bit hokey at times. It is still a classic though, and if just for the cinematogrophy and music, it is highly entertaining.

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