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For me, the Terrible Leprechaun. Unbelievable garbage.

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    alpha128 — 18 years ago(February 24, 2008 12:31 PM)

    Harlan did write "The Price Of Doom" in Voyage's first season, but was so unhappy with the result (after 18 rewrites I believe) that he took his name off it and used his nom-de-plume Cordwainer Bird. ytsejammer
    True. But that doesn't mean it was a bad episode. In fact, it was a very good one.
    Episode 5, "The Price Of Doom": First "monster" story, albeit a great one!
    http://www.vttbots.com/season_one_landmarks.html
    In fact, Mr. Ellison was very demanding and even wanted his name removed from "The City on Edge of Forever"
    Harlan Ellison was dismayed with the changes Gene Roddenberry and D.C. Fontana made to his story (which included, among other things, a drug-addicted Enterprise crewman) so much so, that he wished his credit to read "written by Cordwainer Bird," a request Roddenberry denied. Though Ellison had the final right to have his pseudonym attached, he claims that Roddenberry made veiled threats to the effect that if he did so he would "never work in this town again."
    http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_City_on_the_Edge_of_Forever
    which went on to become the most highly acclaimed episode of the original
    Star Trek
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    By popular acclaim, this is the single best episode of the original series, earning a 1968 Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation (and the other four nominees were all episodes of Star Trek). It was 25 years before another television program received the honor, "The Inner Light". TV Guide also ranked it #68 in their 100 Most Memorable Moments in TV History feature in the 1 July 1995 edition, and also featured it in another issue on the 100 greatest TV episodes of all time.
    http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_City_on_the_Edge_of_Forever

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      ddc300 — 17 years ago(March 22, 2009 04:59 PM)

      Harlan Ellison is a spoiled, overrated, egotistical maniac.
      I met him at I-Con (a Long Island-based SF convention) around ten years ago. I brought with me an original copy of "The Price of Doom" for him to autograph. When I finally got to Ellison, he literally FREAKED OUT when he saw the script! He yelled at me with: 'where did you get this?! Do you know this is studio property and that I have the right to coinfiscate it?!' I was dumbfounded, and stuttering a bit. Finally, I told him that a friend had given it to me (not true I bought it some years earlier from a vendor). I asked him if he'd be kind enough to sign it, but he refused to do so. Ellison waved me off and that was the end of that. What a Drama-Queen! You'd think that a script from a series done more than two decades earlier wouldn't even merit such an over reaction. All I can say is: Mr. Ellison, you are a BIG JERK!

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        captgage-1 — 14 years ago(February 21, 2012 10:53 AM)

        I know. I own the box set that includes The Price Of Doom LOL. Does anyone know if the original script can be read somewhere? I know there's a book about the original Trek episode City on the Edge Of Forever.

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          information_police — 17 years ago(March 10, 2009 05:10 PM)

          It's been ages since I've seen this but I remember an episode where the Seaview was sailing under the South Pole (unbelievably stupid scientific error #1) and there was some flying fire monster hovering in the sky, causing the South polar ice cap to melt and sending chucks of ice down where they were crashing into the sub (incredibly stupid scientific error #2).

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            powersroc — 14 years ago(October 09, 2011 04:49 PM)

            The scriptwriters simply followed the commands of Irwin Allen.Make no mistake about it,Allen was the man in charge & everyone knew it.He was infamous for having his TV series lack logical plots,character development & consistency.He would chastise writers if they introduced lengthy dialogue that was character revealing.If the writers attempted to address issues of plot rationale or continuity Allen would refer to it as "quibbling."He often said that his shows were about action,grand sets & FX.He called them "running,jumping" shows.He wasn't at all interested in producing episodes that dealt with issues or intriguing characters.Twilight Zone,The Outer Limits & Star Trek were sf series that offered substance & depth.Allen's shows were all sizzle & no steak.They were exactly what he wanted them to be.

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              a_l_i_e_n — 14 years ago(October 15, 2011 11:11 PM)

              The scriptwriters simply followed the commands of Irwin Allen. Make no mistake about it,Allen was the man in charge & everyone knew it.
              I wouldn't be surprised considering this was also the guy who directed both "The Swarm" and "Beyond The Poseidon Adventure". It's hard to believe it was all studio interference that accounts for the lack of quality in some (or even alot) of his work.

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                ddc300 — 14 years ago(November 09, 2011 08:13 AM)

                I wouldn't be surprised considering this was also the guy who directed both "The Swarm" and "Beyond The Poseidon Adventure". It's hard to believe it was all studio interference that accounts for the lack of quality in some (or even alot) of his work.
                Actually, your last sentence in the quote should read: 'It's hard to believe it was all studio interference that accounts for
                any quality
                in some (or even alot) of his work.'
                Irwin was his own worst enemy. That's why when Irwin threatened to leave 20th Century-Fox in 1976 unless they allowed him to direct 100% of his movies or he'd leave, Fox said 'leave' and that's when he went over to Warner Bros. who said that they would let him have 100% creative control over his films (they later had to eat their words when "The Swarm" was released. LOL). They even built a new building on the backlot just for Irwin, to entice him to sign with them. Irwin was able to once again talk Warner's into letting him direct "Beyond the Poseidon Adventure". When that flick also tanked at the box office, Warner's told Irwin 'get someone else to direct'. And of course James Goldstone was brought onboard to direct "When Time Ran Out". That flick did only slightly better than the other two turkeys, hence Warner's and Irwin parted ways in 1980.

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                  ddc300 — 14 years ago(November 10, 2011 07:07 AM)

                  By far the worst season of "Voyage" mirrored the second season of "Lost in Space" where nonesencial storylines involving fairytales and wacky aliens were the norm. Not surprising that the worst years for both shows was the 1966-67 season when of course Irwin turned his energies to bringing
                  "Time Tunnel" to the TV screens. Thankfully, both 1967-68 seasons of "Voyage" and "Space" got back to basics with some much better scripts and episodes that were similar to what got the shows off the ground in the first place. But, the innane, and 'goofy' episodes slowly creeped back in, so that by the end of 1968 "Voyage" and "Space" had worn out their welcomes at thier respective networks.

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                    jsrrtzjr10 — 13 years ago(October 15, 2012 01:10 PM)

                    They were bad, but we enjoy laughing at them!

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                      megalon3 — 12 years ago(April 29, 2013 07:00 AM)

                      I agree. The first season in black and white had much better and believable stories. The seasons where they went into fantasy: mermaids, rock people and so on was a bad turn to the show. It went downhill after than. It is on MeTV here on U-verse 2013.

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                        mandeep_basarke — 12 years ago(April 30, 2013 08:42 AM)

                        The vegetable people episode of Lost in Space has to be the worst one Irwin ever made.
                        "Gentlemen, This is a War Room, There's no fighting allowed in Here!"

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                          Darthfrodo58 — 12 years ago(November 17, 2013 12:15 AM)

                          The Great Vegetable Rebellion episode was unanimously panned by the actors also. lol
                          And now, my beloved disciples. The moment of truth the needle of love

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                            ablebravo — 12 years ago(November 02, 2013 09:53 PM)

                            U-Verse? Really? MeTV is available over the air, too. I thought it was
                            only
                            over the air; I haven't paid for TV since 2006.
                            "Any technology sufficiently advanced would be indistinguishable from Magic."

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                              sized-2 — 12 years ago(June 29, 2013 10:05 PM)

                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark
                              'Jumping the shark is an idiom created by Jon Hein that was used to describe the moment in the evolution of a television show when it begins a decline in quality that is beyond recovery, which is usually a particular scene, episode, or aspect of a show in which the writers use some type of "gimmick" in a desperate attempt to keep viewers' interest.
                              The phrase jump the shark comes from a scene in the fifth season premiere episode of the American TV series Happy Days titled "Hollywood: Part 3", written by Fred Fox, Jr.,[4] which aired on September 20, 1977. In the episode, the central characters visit Los Angeles, where a water-skiing Fonzie (Henry Winkler) answers a challenge to his bravery by wearing swim trunks and his trademark leather jacket, and jumping over a confined shark. The stunt was created as a way to showcase Winkler's real life water ski skills.
                              For a show that in its early seasons depicted universally relatable adolescent and family experiences against a backdrop of 1950s nostalgia, this incident marked an audacious, cartoonish turn towards attention-seeking gimmickry. Initially a supporting character, the faddish lionization of an increasingly superhuman Fonzie became the focus of Happy Days. The series continued for seven years after Fonzie's shark-jumping stunt, with a number of changes in cast and situations. The phrase implies a belief that the show began a creative decline in this era, as writers ran out of ideas, and Happy Days became a caricature of itself.'

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                                kenburke0627 — 12 years ago(September 08, 2013 06:54 PM)

                                I remember that episode.
                                I may have been only 13, but I knew the series was in trouble.

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                                  pc-privconfounder — 12 years ago(September 27, 2013 03:52 PM)

                                  "The Sky's on Fire" is the worst. What does it say about the inventiveness of this series that, by the second season, they were reduced to remaking the original film almost line-for-line?

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                                    megalon3 — 12 years ago(December 22, 2013 12:43 PM)

                                    This is where
                                    Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
                                    started going downhill. The black and white episodes were the best.

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                                      jjk50 — 11 years ago(April 27, 2014 01:04 PM)

                                      Th first season may have had more realistic and believable story lines but it also was by far the dullest of the 4 seasons. I would rather see aliens and giant sea creatures than those boring first year episodes.

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                                          ddc300 — 11 years ago(March 11, 2015 08:37 PM)

                                          David Hedison must not have remembered 'The Terrible Leprechaun'.that was a total piece of stcompared to 'The Fossil Men'. At least 'Fossil Men' had a descent plot and good performancescan't say that about 'Leprechaun'.

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