Santa is so nasty and non-understanding
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johandav — 15 years ago(December 20, 2010 06:36 AM)
"Santa Claus is a busy man, don't forget. Planning all those stops around the world in just ONE night."
Stops?!
The man just keeps flying his sleigh and has his elves dropping toys at random as they pass over houses. The only stop we see him make is when he shows up at the Island of Misfit Toys. That's another classic Santa moment - he's left these toys abandoned there, apparently for years, and when he lands the only thing he says is "Well, let's be on our way."
Good ol' Kris Kringle, the king of small talk.
Hmm . . . well, it needs work. I have to go.
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ExplorerDS6789 — 15 years ago(December 20, 2010 12:16 PM)
"The man just keeps flying his sleigh and has his elves dropping toys at random as they pass over houses. The only stop we see him make is when he shows up at the Island of Misfit Toys."
I'm guessing R/B did that for a number of reasons: time, budget, just needed a tag sequence. Don't forget, they only had a set budget to make this. Billie Mae Richards and Paul Soles were only paid $300 for playing Rudolph and Hermey respectively, so there was only so much they could do. Had this been made in, say 1975, they might have included a more detailed way of Santa delivering the toys. They only had so much to work with.
"That's another classic Santa moment - he's left these toys abandoned there, apparently for years, and when he lands the only thing he says is "Well, let's be on our way."
I don't think Santa even knew about the misfit toys. If you recall, Charlie-in-the-box says it's King Moonracer who searches the earth for unloved misfit toys and brings them to the island. Santa just makes and delivers the toys, he doesn't control whether or not a child actually likes them. -
BlonDeWig — 14 years ago(December 10, 2011 06:15 PM)
The thing about Santa not knowing about the Island of Misfit Toys is how can he not know?? He's supposed to know where every child in the world lives, and is therefore in every nook and cranny of the earth.so how does he miss an ISLAND every single year?
Not only that, if he 'makes the toys', did he make the misfit toys too? How did the train get square wheels? Who paired up a cowboy with an ostrich? I'm thinking backstory. Hermes wasn't the first disgruntled elf, there was another, one nobody talks about-one with a wicked sense of humor.
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ExplorerDS6789 — 14 years ago(December 10, 2011 07:08 PM)
"so how does he miss an ISLAND every single year?"
Because no children live there.
"Not only that, if he 'makes the toys', did he make the misfit toys too? How did the train get square wheels? Who paired up a cowboy with an ostrich? I'm thinking backstory."
Factory rejects. There could be many interesting backstories surrounding those toys. You could be right, there might have been some disgruntled elf or a very inexperienced one who made those toys. -
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sailorspysedna — 11 years ago(December 03, 2014 05:46 PM)
I agree; I now see King Moonracer as like a father sort of figure who adopts these toys. I think the kids who get these misfit toys will probably love them.
But I say geez, what is it with people of this generation acting like this and disliking the special saying "oh, everyone's a jerk!"? Are we becoming a bunch of overprotective crybabies? -
sailorspysedna — 11 years ago(December 03, 2014 05:28 PM)
I completely agree with most of this, but I think the reason that Santa was telling Donner he should be ashamed of himself was because of the covering the nose thing. Notice that when Santa said that, he wasn't angry at Rudolph, but at Donner. All he said about Rudolph was that he felt pity for him, and he had a nice takeoff, and he looked a bit sad. If it was the ashamed way as most people I believe misinterpret, then that part with Donner feeling how bad he treated Rudolph would make no sense. I think the reason he's thin is because he's busy in an unhealthy way
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iLoVeMuchAdoAboutNothing — 15 years ago(December 09, 2010 07:53 PM)
haha.. just watching this when it was on the other week i was thinking "why the heck did i ever like this movie?" all the characters besides rudolph, hermey, clarice, and yukon cornelius are jerks.
the Head Elf was as big a jerk to Hermey as Santa/other reindeer were to Rudolph. Then when Rudolph was missing Clarice and Rudolph's mother told Donner that they were going to search for him and his respond was "Stay here, this is man's work." Obviously a father would want the family to stay safe and not for them to be in danger either, but that was a really weird line.
And then its not only Rudolph and Hermey that are rejected there's a whole island of misfits that nobody likes lol.
This whole movie is basically saying that if you are different you'll be cast out of society. And the only way you'll be accepted is if you prove to be useful somehow (Rudolph's nose, Hermey getting rid of the Bumble, misfit toys making kids happy).
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wermuth601 — 15 years ago(December 11, 2010 08:17 AM)
I never really saw Santa as being mean/rude to Rudolph for his nose. When he meets Rudolph and Donner says the nose will probably go away, Santa casually says "it'd better if he's going to lift the sleigh someday." But aside from that and the "Donner, you should be ashamed of yourself!" line (regarding the fact Donner tried o hide the shiney red nose) he doesn't seem to dislike Rudolph.
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sailorspysedna — 11 years ago(December 03, 2014 05:35 PM)
I completely agree with that statement. I thought Santa was acting mean first, but now I've changed my mind. I'm guessing Santa thought that the whole thing with Rudolph's nose was something babies might have when they're younger that might go away when they're older. Also, notice how when Santa says that "you should be ashamed of yourself line", he's talking to and is mad at
DONNER
, not Rudolph. That "Donner felt pretty bad" line would make no sense if it was taken in the way it seems some people are taking it, if Santa said Donner should be ashamed for having Rudolph that way, which I don't agree with. Also, if Santa were really a jerk, would he actually explain and sing to Rudolph what reindeer are like and actually sound happy to see him when he comes home? Also, when he says "What a pity" about Rudolph, he looks like he feels sorry for him.
Sorry if this reply's kinda long, but I'm getting very freaking sick of seeing people say something like this.
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magnus166 — 15 years ago(December 17, 2010 11:14 AM)
"Obviously a father would want the family to stay safe and not for them to be in danger either, but that was a really weird line. "
Well it WAS made in the 60s. Although sadly, some still feel that way, it just wouldn't be in a Christmas special. -
muppetlass87 — 15 years ago(December 19, 2010 04:00 PM)
Really? Just Santa? There were so many jerks in this movie that I'm surprised they didn't just call it "The Un-Merry Douchebag Christmas Special".
The more people I meet, the more I get why Jane Goodall spends all of her time with chimps.. -
sailorspysedna — 11 years ago(December 03, 2014 05:48 PM)
I don't see it that way at all. I'm afraid it's just because times have unfortunately changed for the worst. And no, not all the characters were jerks. To me anyways. You can think that way if you want, but keep it to yourself.