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Titanic Disaster In A Musical?

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    mcdemuth — 9 years ago(June 25, 2016 01:00 PM)

    I never said that this chapter in her life should not have been told You misunderstood what I was asking, and focused on the wrong thing
    Any Disaster is a touchy subject, and should not be fade fun of.
    Most Musicals are known to be lighthearted comedies, and feature many happy songs.
    While featuring the Titanic Disaster in a happy musical is certainly questionable, but as I did say, and you did quote me on,
    was necessary
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    However, even with it being a huge part of Molly's life, I doubt the real MOLLY was insensitive to those around her and sang happy tunes to those in the lifeboats around them.
    So, The thought of having Molly (Debbie) singing "
    Don't Be So Sad, Tomorrow Will Be A Better Day, Now Grab Those Oars, And row row row your boat, to happier times and salvation
    ." to a bunch of grieving women who just lost most of their family, only moments earlier even in a musical about Molly's life, is a total despicable way of thinking, and is completely disrespectful to those that died.
    No one should ever make a movie that laughs at a terrible disaster.
    I was only asking IF.. that is what happened in the film
    OR
    Did they show her being more respectful, and realistic, by at least singing songs like "Amazing Grace" or "Nearer, My God, to Thee" or whatever, to the grieving women in the lifeboats around her.
    She still could have been taking care of everyone, and encouraging to help row, by singing church songs!
    I was only wondering about
    HOW this terrible disaster was depicted in this happy musical
    , NOT why this important chapter in Molly's life was featured in a movie about her.
    "
    Put A Little Love In Your Heart
    , and then
    Make Your Own Kind Of Music
    , on the road to
    Shambala
    !
    "

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      reeda — 9 years ago(July 11, 2016 02:46 PM)

      Just watch the damn movie!

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        mcdemuth — 9 years ago(July 27, 2016 03:12 AM)

        Just watch the damn movie!
        No Thanks!
        Having questions about how that part of her life, was portrayed in this movie, is the only reason why I have not purchased the movie yet But, since all of you can't answer my simple question, I guess you actually answered it for me, haven't you?
        Imagine if someone made a musical out of the terrorist attacks on 9/11 I doubt many would be praising that monstrosity!
        At least James Cameron, still respected the tragedy in his movie, by ceasing to feature comedy & jokes, once the ship hit the iceberg Originally he filmed a short scene when the ship hit the iceberg, where Molly was in the Cafe and asks for more ice, when the iceberg passes behind her. Was it funny? Yes. But at least he realized it was inappropriate to have a scene like that in the movie at that moment and deleted it. Thank Heavens.
        Even in the two Grease movies that were musicals, characters sang sad songs that talked about having relationship problems, in Grease 2, Michelle Pfeiffer sang about the loss of her boyfriend. AND neither of those movies dealt with a major tragedy that involved so many people.
        I am not going to spend $20.00+ on the new Blu-Ray release of the movie, so that I can see the Director and Debbie Reynolds disrespect a tragedy that involved the horrific loss of 1500 people!
        Enjoy your trashy film.

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          reeda — 9 years ago(August 12, 2016 06:51 AM)

          I don't think it has ever been said that a musical has to be happy and can not be serious or even sad. Did you ever see Cabaret? Barely a happy moment in the whole film. What about A Star Is Born? It deals with alcoholism and suicide. Not happy go lucky things to sing about. The Sound of Music, one of the most successful musicals of all time, concludes with a harrowing escape from the Nazis. All serious themes. Add The Unsinkable Molly Brown to the list. The Titanic portion is toward the end and brings the Molly Brown story full circle and explains how she got her name and how her legend was born. It is handled as dignified as the tragedy has been handled in any other depiction. There is nothing trashy about it. This is why I say, Watch the Damn Movie so you can see for yourself. PS, rent it from Netflix or Amazon so you don't have to spend the $20.

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            duked — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 12:04 PM)

            I was just wondering if you protested the movie Jesus Christ Superstar as well? A musical about the crucifixion of the Lord?!?!?!?

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              mark.waltz — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 12:13 PM)

              There was also a successful Tony Winning musical called "Titanic" which won in 1997 the same year of the Academy Award winning movie and a TV mini-series as well. It's called a "musical drama". Molly Brown may be mentioned, but she is not a major part of the musical. Films and shows like this are done because "lest we forget". I wasn't crazy about the musical, but there are some magical moments, particularly the duet between Ida and Isador Strauss (one of the co-founders of Macy's) who sing a love song as they await their fate. In real life, Ida refused to abandon her husband whom she adored, and thus died with him. Yes, it is tragic and sad. In "Molly Brown", the "Titanic" scene is a part of her life, it proves what a survivor she is, basically calming the nervous women on the boat and making sure everybody got to safety. The musical is an analogy of what it takes to be "unsinkable" which is basically going through every dark path of your life and still helping everybody else. She was a country girl who made good and really survived a tough life, and that is a great example to set in a musical. I saw the stage version with Debbie, and am hoping that a recent re-write of the book will eventually make it back to Broadway.
              "Great theater makes you smile. Outstanding theater may make you weep."

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                fshepinc — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 12:56 PM)

                It's hard to take a question like this seriously. Musicals have been tacking serious subjects for decades -even before The Unsinkable Molly Brown. Remember West Side Story? The Maury Yeston - Peter Stone musical TITANIC was a very serious show, respectful to the story and the people involved, and it didn't trivialize anyone or anything. In fact, audiences wept at the end.
                And, for the record, the Titanic sequence in The Unsinkable Molly Brown is a montage, without dialogue, underscored dramatically by the orchestra. The main image is of Molly with a look of horror on her face, and then we're in a lifeboat for a few seconds. It's an incredibly brief moment in the film. I don't know why the original poster seems to imagine a string of chorus boys dancing around the deck as the ship goes down. It's not a Mel Brooks movie


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                  heyteegs — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 07:21 PM)

                  Actually there is dialogue in the Titanic scene. The women in the lifeboat are all screaming and Molly tells them to sit down they're rocking the boat (Guys and Dolls?). Then she starts to undress(?!) and give the ladies her clothes for warmth. Ultimately she is wearing only a slip. Throughout this lifeboat scene (which is somewhat short) Molly tells everyone that they will live through this, etc.
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                    rmontro — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 08:56 PM)

                    Yeah, I've always been surprised at how brief the Titanic sequence in this movie is. It's almost a blink and you'll miss it type of thing. It's not part of the "singing and dancing".

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                      cmashieldscapting — 9 years ago(January 28, 2017 12:47 AM)

                      Just saw the movie for the first time and was amazed at the briefness of the title scene in relation to the length of the movie.

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