Sgt Watson the coward
-
Adam60z — 19 years ago(February 26, 2007 05:34 AM)
Sergeant Watson was the hero because he had the courage to stand up to that bastard Captain Harris. His plans got two other innocent people killed, the Mexical and the doctor.
Play the game existence 'til the endof the beginning -
gribfritz2 — 13 years ago(October 12, 2012 08:00 PM)
who spent the entire time dodging any kind of responsibility
Untrue. He helps build the plane every step of the way, unlike the Capt who, while well-intentioned, ran off on several wild goose chases. The only thing the Sgt did is not want to hike 100 miles in the desert to a water hole they had no chance of finding and he did not want to say howdy to a group of unknowns who most likely were criminals and would kill him. At the end of the day, the Capt is dead and the Sgt is alive. And the Capt, as well-intentioned as he was, as far as I can remember, did virtually nothing helpful. -
Erik-Bloodaxe — 13 years ago(November 13, 2012 03:08 PM)
I guess one point is that Harris was used to giving orders and when it came to being part of the team, and effectively taking orders from Towns, he couldn't do it. It was more important for him to run his own silly mission.
"Knowledge is cheap at any price" -
JurorNr13 — 16 years ago(April 25, 2009 05:08 PM)
Capt Harris gave his life so that the others may not have ben spotted by the raiders.
Wrong. He was killed by the arab caravan when he approached and asked them for help. If he hadn't gone noone would have been killed because the arabs would never have spotted the wreckage and the survivors. This is what Capt. Towns realized in the scene where he shoots the camel.
I don't think Sgt. Watson is a coward, but I do think that he is a pretty low human being and comrade as seen in his reaction to the news of Capt. Harris' death. -
jonpride — 20 years ago(December 07, 2005 05:50 PM)
Sgt. Watson was the coward, but only until he stands up to his his officer. It is obviously implied that he feels that his position is humiliating, like when Captain Harris tells him to be a good chap and clean his gun. Pretending to sprain his ankle is a cowardly move because he is sidestepping his real problem, which is his obsequious position in relation to Captain Harris. When he tells Captain Harris that he will not join him, he is finally facing his problem, and the line "I am not afraid." is the coup de grace. I almost feel that he earned a spot on the airplane, not just for his work on it, but for his ability to face his fear. The book really elaborates on this complex character, and really gets inside his motives. Read the book if you get the chance; the philosophies are very insightful. Good comment for discussion.
-
porfle — 18 years ago(May 24, 2007 09:34 AM)
I agree completely. Watson is the character that I identify with the most, although we're supposed to be sickened by his "cowardice." I wouldn't want to trail along after Harris on his bonehead suicide missions either.
http://www.bumscorner.com
http://www.myspace.com/porfle -
LionHearted99 — 18 years ago(July 16, 2007 02:16 AM)
Possibly he let his CO downbut not himself. His CO was quite mad to try to traverse the hostile desert under those demanding conditions. And even more insane to ask another man to go to certain death also. This had nothing to do with any war time campaign. Under these conditions the hierarchical rules of the military should be suspended. Anyone who has the capability to think for himself would have had a problem with this, I think.
"The Pope gave a dispensation to allow the king to marry his brother's widow. Now we must ask the Pope to dispense with his dispensationagain for state reasons"? "I don't like plodding, Thomas. Well?" "Clearly then, all we have to do is to approach His Holiness and ask Him." -
greenleafie — 18 years ago(September 02, 2007 11:26 AM)
Watson was a victim- sold into military servitude by his parents, when he was only a boy. It took remarkable courage to do what he did, to stand up to an all-powerful, corrupt system and become his own man. Crashing in the desert was probably his best stroke of luck. Harris' death illustrates that when nature, or fate, or God, or whatever you want to call it intervenes, the system we all seem compelled to trust in fails, and cost Harris his life and those of two others as well. Watson, more than anyone, deserved to survive, because life, up until then, had never given him any choices. He was indeed a victim, until he had the courage to break the cycle of servitude. His story, following the end of this show, would be by far the most interesting. Would he, for example, if he chose, be able to escape the military trap his parents had condemned him to, or would he simply be imprisoned in a stockade for failing to be the slave his "superiors" wanted him to be? I like to think he got out of the army and began to experience life as a free man. The contempt the others- like Towns and Moran- showed him for his actions, reveal the narrowness of their thinking, when they themselves were unhappy about their own treatment at the hands of Arabco Oil.
-
porfle — 18 years ago(October 09, 2007 08:18 PM)
Yeah! Well said. Hooray for Sergeant Watson!
http://www.bumscorner.com
http://www.myspace.com/porfle -
LionHearted99 — 18 years ago(October 24, 2007 02:27 AM)
Possibly he left his captain downbut not himself. Sgt. Watson knew his captain was crazy and most certainly would die trying to walk a ridiculous amount of miles to a civilized station in blazing hot desert conditions. As I recall this was explained to him by Capt. Towns, but being British and "good show" and all thathe was determined to do it. Sgt. Watson was the more human if not humane, of the two.
-
TorontoJediMaster — 18 years ago(January 08, 2008 01:03 AM)
I don't think he was a coward.
He might have been in violation of the military orderbut not common sense.
Harris was on a fool's errand and Watson knew it. It wasn't like they were in battle, and they had to take an objective. It was Harris embarking on a mission that everyone knew was doomed to fail.
And, Harris seemed to automatically assume that Watson would go. As that was not part of normal duties, and carried an inordinate amount of risk, I would have thought that Harris would have asked Watson if he would volunteer -pointing out that was above the normal call of duty, and thus he couldn't order him to do so.
I don't think Watson was a coward. He had served in the Army for something like thirty years by that time. (The first time, his father volunteered him. However, after that enlistment expired, he was there by his own volition.). But, it's one thing to take a soldier's normal risks in the line of duty. That, I'm certain, he would have been willing to do. It's another to throw your life away on a fool's errand by an officer who simply can't see the fact his plan is suicide. Towns even tried to warn Harris that his plan hadn't a chance of succeeding.
I don't think Watson was a coward. I think he just refused to throw his life away for nothing. -
b-giftig — 18 years ago(February 04, 2008 01:55 AM)
I agree to the point that Watson acted the way he di to save his own life, and that he showed common sense in doing so. I found very good postings on this one here, thanks, folks!
But WHY did he try to hide the return of Capt. Harris? He obviously meant to leave him dying in the desert, only few footsteps away from rescue. Was he afraid that Towns would report the fake-accident to his capitain?
And I did not like his obvious joy on finding out that Harris was murdered by the raiders. "Harris is dead, isn't he? beam" - He is the most ambivalent character, I would have been interested inhis future life as well.
PS: sorry for mistakes, English is not my native language. -
drystyx — 18 years ago(February 13, 2008 11:05 PM)
The varying reports in this thread show how good a job the movie did on this character. I think the movie was just good all the way around. It was disappointing to see huge stars like Borgnine, Duryea, and Kennedy doing what amounted to little more than cameos. I know Borgnine got a high billing, but his role was pretty small, though he and the others all did splendidly.
But as for Watson. I agree, he was a coward by definition. Of course a coward may also be considered a survivor. I liked the way the movie let him survive, because in real life a coward will survive more often than the Peter Finch character, bless his foolhardy or brave soul (depending on how you look at it).
Of course, as some people already stated, Finch led men to their deaths.
This brings up another point. Since Finch had two tragic excursions, and seemed to have a degree of destruction as far as his followers were concerned, it seems that Watson observed this in the past. Who knows how many people he saw Finch get killed or maimed before. I'm not sure we're supposed to read this into the story, but I'm not sure we're not supposed to read it ito the story, either.
Watson's character was much more explored than the others, even the leads. He was like a little villain, if the movie had one. Was he a survivor? Or a coward? I would say both.
Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time -
greenleafie — 18 years ago(February 22, 2008 09:47 AM)
Watson clearly didn't like Harris. But I noticed, when Harris praised him ("Well done!") for work he had done on the plane, Watson seemed very touched by the comment. I expect, having grown up in the Army, Watson had come to look on his Captain as a father-figure. But like many 'sons,' he had a love/hate relationship with his surrogate Dad. While one son might openly challenge his father for supremacy, Watson was presented with the unigue opportunity to simply do nothing and see Harris die from his own suicidal nature. It seems the balance was tipped in favor of his hatred. I can't say I liked Watson, but I can appreciate the predicament he was in. His failure to act to save Harris transcended his duty as a soldier and spoke of a fundamental deficiency in his character as a human being. Harris may have acted out of what he (Harris) viewed as nobility and honor, but the bottom line is, he had not correctly assessed the situation he and those he had assumed responsibility for were in, and so in fact was abusing his authority. I felt sympathy for Watson, but little for Harris. ("Who is more foolish? The fool, or the fool that follows it?" -Ben Kenobi)
-
romarub — 16 years ago(July 18, 2009 01:54 PM)
I agree. Sgt. Watson's look was one of utter contempt, even disgust, at having received praise from someone he clearly despised (Capt. Harris). Perhaps Watson may have seen Harris's comment as sincere, which would have only further infuriated Watson's hatred towards Harris even more, since, to have accepted and acknowledged Harris's benevolence would have necessitated Watson to back off from his feelings about Harris to some degree, compelling him to modify his already deeply felt hatred that was already so ingrained within him. There was no indication in Watson's expression, that I could read, as appreciativeness or gratefulness for having his efforts recognized by Harris - in fact, quite the opposite.
Watson was aware that Harris had seen him lying at the edge of the camp and had simply left him there to die. That Harris never reported Watson's refusing him assistance (which might even be viewed as attempted murder), would only further have antagonized Watson, Harris showing the kind of strength of character that Watson was incapable of emulating (and, ironically, similar to the kind of strength of purpose Dorfman displayed that Towns had found so exasperating and antagonizing).
This has to be one of my TOP 10 favorite films (just had to get that in!).