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In the episode Kirk and Spock are being humilated and degraded ( being forced to sing, have a little man ride Kirk, and

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    timmytony80 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 04:33 PM)

    Satan 2016; No. Lucille Ball was a Swedish (White ?) Caucasian American. Desi Arnez was an Hispanic (Ethno) Caucasian. With almost certainly some pre-Columbian blood. And possibly Black blood in him. Nordics may have not been considered White in the 50's/early 60's. Thus the ? inside the parentheses.

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      McCartney42 — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 07:52 PM)

      I don't think it was "All in the Family" that had the first interracial kiss actually. There's a movie named "One Potato,Two Potato" that was made in 1964 that had the first kiss I believe. It starred Barbara Barrie and Bernie Hamilton who fall in love. It was a good movie.

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        doug65oh — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 09:05 PM)

        You're correct about "One Potato, Two Potato." However, that was a
        feature film
        rather than a television program - that's where the distinction lies.
        The first interracial kiss on American network television was in the episode "Plato's Stepchildren," which aired on November 22, 1968 when Captain Kirk kissed Lieutenant Uhura.

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          McCartney42 — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 04:41 AM)

          Thanks doug65 for the correction. I guess I'd forgotten that we were talking just television. Late night, you know how it is?

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            timmytony80 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 04:40 PM)

            Was it Lionel Jefferson & Archie's niece.

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              !!!deleted!!! (49761343) — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 08:48 AM)

              Didn't Lucy and Desi share an interracial kiss?
              How? Desi Arnaz was Caucasian.
              IMDB, flagging ppl for bull
              since 1995.

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                chris109 — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 01:45 PM)

                He was a 'white hispanic'.

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                  timmytony80 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 04:10 PM)

                  Vhris 109; There are Spanish Hispanics, Negro Hispanics, Asian Hispanics. Even Native American Hispanics! But no White Hispanics. Not in America (U.S.A.), anyway.

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                    rcocean3 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 04:42 PM)

                    How? Desi Arnaz was Caucasian.
                    So you're saying Hispanics like Desi are white and not "people of color"?

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                      timmytony80 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 04:37 PM)

                      You guys know their lips never actually touched, right.

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                        grizzledgeezer — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 08:17 AM)

                        There might have been an Asian-American kiss on TV before
                        Star Trek
                        . I read this recently, but remember the program.

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                          movieghoul — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 10:12 AM)

                          What was the uproar with Harry Belafonte and Petula Clark? Did they kiss?

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                            doug65oh — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 01:42 PM)

                            No, they did not kiss. Petula merely
                            touched
                            his arm. Here's a little article what talks about the whole thing, from
                            http://www.emmytvlegends.org/blog/?p=1086

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                              vgarci2003 — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 04:22 PM)

                              Sono white guy kissed "Julia"?

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                                grizzledgeezer — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 09:17 AM)

                                Julia
                                was fairly revolutionary. It was only the second American series to star a black woman.
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_(TV_series)
                                It was difficult to locate this article, it having somehow fallen through the Wikipedia indexing cracks. I found it only by entering "Julia Baker", then rejecting Wikipedia's attempt to replace the search with "
                                Julian
                                Baker".

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                                  Gialmere — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 01:14 PM)

                                  There might have been an Asian-American kiss on TV before Star Trek. I read this recently, but remember the program.
                                  On a first season episode of
                                  The Wild Wild West
                                  , James West shares several kisses with a Chinese princess (played by a Filipina actress) and seems very happy to do so. This would have been around three years before Plato's Stepchildren.

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                                    timmytony80 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 04:03 PM)

                                    Gialmere; are you sure? The Wild Wild West predates TOS by only 1 yr.

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                                      Gialmere — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 05:32 PM)

                                      Gialmere; are you sure? The Wild Wild West predates TOS by only 1 yr.
                                      According to IMDb, the first season WWW episode,
                                      The Night the Dragon Screamed
                                      , first aired on January 14, 1966. The third season ST episode,
                                      Plato's Stepchildren
                                      , first aired on November 22, 1968. So, officially, it's a difference of 2 years, 10 months, 1 week and 1 day.

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                                        timmytony80 — 9 years ago(October 16, 2016 05:19 PM)

                                        Gialmere; thx, had no idea they were that far apart.

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                                          jxh13 — 9 years ago(October 10, 2016 07:41 AM)

                                          For the record, the first interracial kiss on
                                          Star Trek
                                          happened in Season One, "What are little girls made of," when Uhura kisses Christine Chapel.
                                          What may have been courageous about "Plato's Stepchildren" is if Fred Freiburger had managed to plan an interracial kiss in a romantic setting, rather than one that occurs under duress (and compulsion) between two people who have no emotional involvement. Controversial, but something less than groundbreaking, more of a footnote.
                                          There was supposed to be a sub-plot in Season One "The Alternative Factor" of a romance between a white guest-star (one of the Lazari) and an African American engineer, but presumably the Network put the kibosh on it, forcing rewrites, and is one of several reasons the episode dwells in
                                          Star Trek
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