Graphic scenes for a 1966 movie audience?
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jbaddock — 12 years ago(September 22, 2013 02:13 PM)
I saw the film when it first came out in 1966 and what I particularly remember was the gasp/grunt that came from almost everyone in the cinema when the axe was buried in the student's stomach - it was as if we all felt it. Yes, the film was pretty brutal, but it was meant to be - this was not glamourising war at all. The film was making the point that the slaughter at the boom was all down to Collins's desire to seek redemption, no matter what it cost.
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joscco — 12 years ago(September 23, 2013 09:17 AM)
I was only a kid when I first saw
The Sand Pebbles
, but the most shocking scene for me and the audience I was with, was our sailors being covered with filth thrown at them and not being able to do anything about it. Not long after the movie's release, it started happening to our military personnel coming home from overseas.
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zooeyhall — 12 years ago(September 23, 2013 10:29 AM)
YesI remember that scene also.
I also seem to remember a brief shot of someone trying to throw stuff from a window at the passing Americans, but an old man stops it and shakes his head as if saying "No don't do it".
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joscco — 11 years ago(May 12, 2014 09:12 PM)
www.wcyb.com/Tennessee-Remembering-Vietnam-War-Veterans/14592910
http://www.newstopic.net/news/local/x112096426/Vietnam-veterans-offer- personal-stories-to-West-Caldwell-students
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movies789 — 11 years ago(May 13, 2014 01:23 AM)
"Musick says he spent exactly 365 days in Vietnam and there wasn't much fanfare when he finally came home, 'I was wearing my uniform and the ribbons identifying [me] as a Vietnam Veteran and I guess my recollection is [that] I wasn't even spoken to, much less [respected],' he said Musick says [that] when they returned from what some called an unwinnable war, some soldiers were [spat] on and even had garbage thrown at them."
"Dixon said [that] when he came home, he was encouraged not to wear his uniform because protesters were waiting in airports to harass returning veterans, calling them 'baby killers' and throwing bags of human waste at them."
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joscco — 11 years ago(May 13, 2014 09:10 AM)
You asked for "Any" documentation or evidence to back up a general observation I had made. I took a chance that you were not some obnoxious troll, and spent time providing several links indicating some of our military personnel returning from overseas were treated badly. I see that I was mistaken and that you are a waste of my time.
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thomasm5 — 11 years ago(July 10, 2014 05:51 PM)
Every time I've heard a story of Viet Nam vets being spat on or worse when coming home it's always a third party urban legend type story. I've never ever heard any one say it happened to them or even some one they knew. Never saw a news story or an article in the paper. I've never heard it from a Viet Nam vet (I've met quite a few) I went to a college from 68-72 which had many protests. There were several Viet vets at the school- I roomed with one- and I never saw them treated with any sort of disrespect. My roommate was often asked about what went on there and I heard many, many conversations between him and anti war types as well as other vets(many of whom had negative attitudes about the war). There were never any fights and it rarely got loud.
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Lokisgodhi — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 09:39 PM)
Yeah, I quite agree. This seems to be an urban legend created sometime after the war.
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tropicaldiver2001 — 9 years ago(February 05, 2017 09:53 AM)
I served in the US Army from 1970-1973. I flew in and out of a number of airports including LAX. I was never treated badly. In fact airline personnel always let military standbys on the aircraft ahead of civilians. Back then you could fly for half price if you were willing to gamble that there would be an empty seat left on the plane after the regular fare passengers got on.
One time I was seated in first class as a standby and the stewardesses were very friendly as I recall. I think many people had brothers, sons and husbands in the military and went out of their way to be nice to servicemen. This was during the draft and so many more families had someone in the military.
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rready4198-693-489748 — 11 years ago(June 10, 2014 09:33 PM)
I saw this movie in 1967 with my school (Catholic Girls High School) and I did not see it as being violent. To me it was realistic and maybe because we were seeing scenes from Viet Nam War on the evening news, which could be graphic, it appeared normal to me. I would have thought it fake if it were not shown realistically. Also, do you think Steve would have stood for any thing that might appear phony? That was not Steve and if you know anything about Stevehe did not let Directors get away with foolishness. He had a reputation and everybody knew it. As a Director if you showed weaknesshe would eat you for lunch. He respected those who stood up to him and had an uneasy peace with others. One he ruined his relationship with was John Sturges they made three movies together, Never So Few, The Magnificent Seven and The Great Escape after The Great Escape John Sturges was finished and could not take it anymore.
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darryl-tahirali — 11 years ago(September 05, 2014 03:23 PM)
One he ruined his relationship with was John Sturges they made three movies together, Never So Few, The Magnificent Seven and The Great Escape after The Great Escape John Sturges was finished and could not take it anymore. - rready4198-693-489748
What do you mean "John Sturges was finished and could not take it anymore"? Maybe his relationship with Steve McQueen was finished (although it appears that Sturges was initially tapped to direct McQueen's 1971 racing film
Le Mans
but dropped out). But Sturges's directing career continued for another decade or more after
The Great Escape
, including the high-profile films
Ice Station Zebra
,
Marooned
, and
The Eagle Has Landed
.
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rready4198-693-489748 — 11 years ago(September 11, 2014 06:28 PM)
While he was directing "Le Mans," John Sturges had, had enough of Steve's tantrums and all that went along with them. He never talked to Steve again and that was sad. He had been so instrumental in working with Steve. By the time they were doing "Le Mans" Steve was doing so many drugs and he was not making sense. John quit and that was the end of there friendship and relationship.
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darryl-tahirali — 11 years ago(September 11, 2014 10:51 PM)
While he was directing "Le Mans," John Sturges had, had enough of Steve's tantrums and all that went along with them. - rready4198-693-489748
Thanks for the information. I couldn't find a reason why Sturges left
Le Mans
. Too bad about their relationship.
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