I can't stand people my age.
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haristas — 17 years ago(July 19, 2008 12:04 PM)
You need to get locks for your doors so your friends can't just walk into your house or room. What is it with people your age not locking their doors?!? When I was a teenager and I wanted to watch a movie on TV and this is back in the days before VCRs! I closed the door, drew the curtains and gave the movie my total attention. Anyway, glad you liked THE SAND PEBBLES. Buy the 2-disc DVD edition (excellent, by the way), lock your doors, and watch the movie again.
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scruffy58 — 17 years ago(July 20, 2008 10:38 AM)
I'm sorry to say that its not just a problem with people your own age. I see this with people of every age. The attention span of the average person has gotten noticeably shorter. People are used to instant gratification and they simply don't have the patience to wait things out. Examples: email = quick contact ; texting = instant contact; cell phones are everywhere; etc. I've read on IMDb where some people complained that an action film like "Cloverfield" didn't move fast enough. They said that the introductory sequences introducing the characters could have been jettisoned and the film should just start out with the attack. I find this disconnect from characters in film to be distressing, to say the least because it mirrors people's disconnect in 'real' life. I am so pleased that you like and appreciate "The Sand Pebbles" so much. It truly is a wonderful film and and superb example of character development. By the end of the film, you truly care about all these people and you understand each of their motivations.
"Thus, we began our longest journey together."
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CmdrCody — 17 years ago(August 01, 2008 07:13 AM)
You bring up a good point. Times and tastes change.
On the IMDb thread, "For Whom The Bell Tolls," contributors comment that the movie is boring ("Zzzz"). They think Sean Connery in "Thunderball" is dull. And they don't like "The Sand Pebbles."
A pity. All three movies showcased great cast chemistry, exotic locales, and sweeping action scenes. There was complex character interaction and development. AND NO STUPID, OVERARCING (SMOTHERING) CGI EFFECTS !!!!
There were many more movies made back then for adults to watch. Now, a new movie plot cannot exceed a 13 year-old's comprehension (and attention span) or else it won't get made.
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coxm-1 — 16 years ago(December 03, 2009 06:24 AM)
"I know that very well. That's the point I'm trying to make. There are very few people my age who aren't morons. Especially in Alaska. We're the dumbest state in the country."
You all proved that when Alaska elected Sarah Palin Governor. Of course, as a matter of home state pride I submit that Tennessee is the dumbest state in the lower 48. -
jawebster2000 — 10 years ago(May 25, 2015 10:43 PM)
I don't like it when people put Sarah Palin down. She is a solid Conservative and what this country needs right now (May 2015) are people like Palin in charge. I think we can equate the people who don't like Sarah Palin with the same people who don't like this movie and who call it boring. They just don't understand what's good and what's bad and because of people like them, Obama is our president. It is a sad state of affairs!
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Hancock_the_Superb — 16 years ago(October 25, 2009 12:42 PM)
I think the point has to be made that not all older/"classic" movies hold up well today. For Whom the Bell Tolls is way too long, perhaps out of screenwriter's decision to be slavishly faithful to the novel, and the really fake sets (contrasting with the occasional real landscape shots) and oddball casting definitely hurt it. A Hollywood backlot is not an exotic locale, and if Akim Tamiroff and Ingrid Bergman are Spaniards then I'm Mao Tse-Tung.
For that matter, I like Thunderball, but bringing a Bond movie into the discussion isn't really helping your case either.
That being said, though I prefer classic movies over the modern, most of my friends and associates have at least a few older movies they like, even if it's limited in number or genre. Of course they're going to like movies that have come out in their life time. That's a factor, as is personal taste and preference. Someone might like musicals but hate Westerns, and certainly vice versa. And not everyone is going to enjoy every classic movie ever made, though this point seems lost on a lot of holier-than-thou snobs.
Further, let's not forget the mountains of trash that came out in the "good old days". We have Transformers, you had Beach Party films. The main reason that older movies are held in so high a regard is that most of the drek has been forgotten, and the good (or at least acclaimed) movies remembered.
The inability of many people in my generation to appreciate anything more sophisticated baffles and frustrates me a great deal. But the snobbery of short-sighted, arrogant older people (and a few youngsters who desperately wish to be superior to their peers) towards those who don't share their taste tends to annoy me more.
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clash77 — 14 years ago(May 22, 2011 03:47 PM)
"Further, let's not forget the mountains of trash that came out in the "good old days". We have Transformers, you had Beach Party films."
Very true. On the other hand, look at how many more movies are released each year as opposed to the "good old days." I swear it seems like 5 to 10 crappy movies come out EVERY SINGLE WEEK. It's sad to think that on any given month, there might be 2 to 3 movies released that are worth seeing. And that's being generous.
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rwsmith29456 — 17 years ago(August 19, 2008 10:21 PM)
Glad you got a chance to see a really good movie. You are abviously more mature than your so-called 'friends' and their complete lack of manners. Don't let them influence you. Happy Gilmore is ok when you want to see Happy Gilmore. But if you want to see a movie with a lot of depth, HG isn't going to cut it. Watch "Sand Pebbles".
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Polaris01313-1 — 17 years ago(November 11, 2008 11:51 PM)
"I think that our nation's youth has lost all of it's good taste and intelligence. I don't think that there's a way out of it."
I couldn't have said it better myself. Just look at the lack of respect the youth have for their elders. It is definately not a pretty picture.
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RevertingToType — 17 years ago(December 26, 2008 12:58 PM)
Yeah, sadly it's something you see on internet forums also - the inability to read even a fairly long post, or the suspicion why anyone would even care that much to write a detailed argument. This is largely popular culture being the only influence and setting an increasingly stupid 'consensus', which each generation generally just accepts.
Unfortunately, even before the 'errr, riiight, whatever' culture, films were becoming more trivial and dismissive, but it's accelerated now, since filmmakers cynically pander to viewer's increasingly shallow expectations. -
Memories-Of-Murder — 17 years ago(February 24, 2009 03:30 AM)
huggin_possums, thouhg the probem seems to be getting worst today, i ahve tot ell you that is not just a problem of your generation. It also happend with mine, with the folks born in the 70s and who were teens in the 80s. And for a moment, i was like one of those, when i though that movies like RAMBO II were the best stuff that cinema could bring. Then i saw BLADE RUNNER and everything changed.
Maybe it's a question of oportunity, that they haven't seen the really great movie that will click their minds to better movies. Maybe it's because your freinds came asa pack and thus created that mood for goofying around. Maybe if there was only one of your freidns with you, and he noticed how absorved you were with the moie, he payed attention to it. Much of our behavior is imitation, right? Your interest in THE SAND PEEBLES might had contaged him. If he was alone with you.
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Nosferatu6979 — 17 years ago(March 04, 2009 04:57 AM)
Yeah, sadly, the ADD thing seems to be affecting just about everyone these days. I'm approaching 38 years old, and luckily I can still kick back and absorb a slow, well-made, character-driven type movie. A couple of my freinds are both in their 40's, and unfortunately they've both gotten to the point where they can't keep focused on any particular subject for more than a minute or two. 10 years ago, I could carry on a deep conversation with either of them, but not anymore. Even my mother, who's in her 60's now, has gotten to the point where she only wants to watch movies full of explosions and non-stop action. Btw, in reference to an earlier post, I absolutely detested Cloverfield! It needs to die a quick death and be buried in a shallow grave along with the rest of the movies that are filmed shaky-cam style and CGI'd to death! The dialog in that turd of a movie had me completely beside myself! Like when the helicopter is going to crash, and they're screaming bloody murder, then all of a sudden the camera guy is saying "I'm sorry, I'm sorry". WTF??? Or when he's gonna attempt to stop his buddy from going after his GF and he says "You're going to force me to tackle you and try to stop you, which will put us both in a very uncomfortable situation". That sounded so PC and un-ballsy, I felt like throwing up! LOL. I simply would've told the dude "suit yourself" and worry more about saving my own neck. But in this day and age, I guess nothing is more important than making sure to have a video recording of the whole ordeal, even though it cost the dumb schmuck his life! Oh yeah, one last thing. When he's getting ready to leap to the other building, and he says into the camera, "If this is the last thing you see, that means I didn't make the leap and I died". No sh*t Sherlock! LMFAO. That show was laughably pathetic! OK, rant over now. ;o)
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acmilan03c1 — 17 years ago(March 09, 2009 02:33 AM)
"Maybe it's because your freinds came asa pack and thus created that mood for goofying around. Maybe if there was only one of your freidns with you, and he noticed how absorved you were with the moie, he payed attention to it. Much of our behavior is imitation, right?"
That's quite possibly true. I had the same thing happen to me one day, a few years back, when I was trying to watch Rebecca on TV and some of my friends happened to be in the room. I never made that mistake again They kept bitching about how boring it was and making wisecrack comments, and it was really annoying. And, of course, Rebecca is NOT a boring movie, nor is it too dated. Anyway, at least one of them I know is a guy who knows how to appreciate a good movie (he's even a big fan of Ingmar Bergman's pictures) and yet he too was behaving just like the other two then, joining in the wisecracks. So yeah, group mentality was probably the reason. -
TOMASBBloodhound — 16 years ago(April 19, 2009 07:22 PM)
Come on, people! As we all know if you go into a video store, the best film they have is the one with the most copies available. For that means the film is the newest, and probably a "big hit" and therefore the best thing you could possibly see. Pay no attention to any films that are older than you are, as the values depicted in them have long been outdated. And any humor or the attitudes of any character in an "old" film have long been obsolete.
Can't we all agree that The Dark Knight is the greatest film ever made? Obvioulsy it has to be look at all the money it made. And it's barely a year old! At least until the new Wolverine movie comes out, The Dark Knight must be considered the best film ever made. Or maybe that master thespian Will Smith has something coming out soon..
Oh, and unless its rated PG-13, no film can possibly be considered for "great" status.