A REALLY BAD BAD MOVIE …
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Teorema
bilcol — 21 years ago(December 10, 2004 02:26 PM)
If this is culture , then I certainly prefer to be uncultured ! Go ahead see this movie if you have 2 hours to waste! (the good is that you'll have some minutes left!)
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claudja777 — 21 years ago(January 01, 2005 01:07 PM)
I'm really upset when I read this thing.Surely your opinion is Holy,but,if I can,I suggest you to try to see it once again.Of course its moralistic view it's heavy and annoying,I agree-(the Vatican church gave this movie a prize..so..)but some scenes are absolutely deep and unforgivable.And I'm not talking about the wonderful music.Anyway,if you still don't like it,well..don't search for any other pasolini no more!!!:))
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HHFR — 20 years ago(July 20, 2005 03:34 AM)
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m sorry that you think in that way because i like that movie so much but i ask a question why do you see movies ? i mean that when you watch a movie you dont like to think about it ?
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The_Dying_Flutchman — 20 years ago(January 10, 2006 10:05 AM)
You sound like someone who is primarily interested in phillistine pig ignorance. Either that or yer very young. Even so yew will drink yer milk uncultured.
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dbaboci — 20 years ago(January 26, 2006 11:09 PM)
I don't think it is about being cultured or uncultured. It is about how you understand the movie. Personally after i watch a movie, and i like it or i do not understand it i research it to see how other people have understood it in order to try and understand it even more
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amominak — 20 years ago(February 05, 2006 03:58 AM)
Amen! I felt truly lost at the end of this movie. I guess I'd better not see any more Passolini. I only saw it because a book I recently read kept referring to this movie. Hmmmm.. as a sidenote, I thought it appeared to have been filmed in english and dubbed over in italian..maybe just me but, it sure looked that way.
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trickyhappyelf — 19 years ago(November 13, 2006 11:06 PM)
nope it wasn't. Almost All Italian films of this time were dubbed over in post-production. Therefore the actors that spoke english in real life, spoke english when fiming, others spoke italian, others just counted to ten over and over. Lots of times the script wasn't even finished when directors shot the movie
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sessoconkafka — 20 years ago(March 10, 2006 04:12 PM)
"Teorema" is not an ordinary movie. It conveys a pretty deep message that's not so easy to understand (especially if you haven't been living in Italy in the late sixties). It works on complex metaphors that are not exhaustively explained. Yet its poignancy should not be denied. Not bad at all: Just different.
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squelcho — 19 years ago(April 28, 2006 02:31 PM)
It's said that Takashi Miike based Visitor Q loosely on Teorema.
I can see the resemblance, but Miike's humour is a welcome antidote to the stiff artiness of Pasolini's film.
I appreciate that it's from a different era, with different situationist goals, but purely as a movie, it failed to hold my interest with its clumsy symbolism.
Bunuel did it more humourously, Fellini did it more subtly, and Pasolini's finest moments were definitely elsewhere.
No doubt the intrinsic iconoclasm was very daring for its day, but Pasolini's deconstruction of church and state makes for a somewhat bland and predictable outcome.
I certainly don't agree with the OP, but neither do I think it's a masterpiece.
To my mind, it's an enigmatic footnote in the career of a director with much bigger fish to fry. Ditto Terence Stamp. -
cinesimonj — 12 years ago(July 23, 2013 09:06 AM)
That would be a relevant question if everyone understood things the same way, and found understanding things exactly as easy as each other.
For the life of me, I'll never fathom how people can think that 'good' or in this case 'well made' means 'don't have to think'.
I guess you also think that every painting or book you don't understand automatically makes it a bad book or painting. -
loufster — 19 years ago(May 06, 2006 03:02 PM)
Erm it's 'You can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think'. If you're going to mock someone for their lack of sophistication, you should at least get your quote straight.
I don't think you need to restate the 'horse' part either. Kind of ruins the joke. Sorry, was just passing, and couldn't help noticing -
ChoirBoyOC — 19 years ago(January 08, 2007 10:26 AM)
Late to the party, I realize, but you've both got the quote wrong. The story is that Dorothy Parker was asked to use the word "horticulture" in a sentence, and came up with the pun:
"You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think."