Why Only an 8.2 Rating?
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lnoft97 — 11 years ago(November 30, 2014 12:40 PM)
That would be me. Me, dragging the ratings down. I didn't like it much. ( I did like bits of it and I did like the actors in some scenes). But I simply could not and cannot warm up to it and give it a high rating. I can see why it's widely beloved, like Honey Boo Boo or the Duck people. Not me, no thank you.
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TheBoz — 11 years ago(December 01, 2014 07:13 PM)
Im asking why an 8.2 in the first place. What the hell was so brilliant that we didn't see in better movies like the Wild Bunch or Treasure of Sierra Madre. All Newman and Redford did was trade jokes like Abbott and Costello, duck and cover from the posse that was chasing them. And then they go to Bolivia and basically repeat the same schtick as they did in America.
The only reason this movie was a big deal was Burt Bacharach music, and their Freeze Frame headlong rush into triple volley of Bolivian bullets.
No mention of their life with the Wild Bunch or the fact that they were in San Vincente whooping it up for days contrary to their usual precaution of keeping a low profile and drawing attention to themselves.
And either they bled to death or committed suicide nobody today knows for sure. But the Butch and Sundance in this movie were more Keystone Kops with their blowing up the whole safe and boxcar with it.
And Etta Place was just window dressing, her character undeveloped. A waste of Katherine Ross who had done so well in the Graduate a year earlier. -
Macreedy — 11 years ago(December 13, 2014 07:10 AM)
Among other things I would quarrel with your assessment that Redford and Newman traded jokes like Abbott and Costello. They gave us a vaudevillean baggypants routine. And if nothing else, the Redford-Newman exchanges are decidedly modern. In fact they presage the modern comic buddy movie, perhaps because virtually every buddy movie since then has paid homage to Redford and Newman through blatant imitation.
"Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" breaks down for me because it doesn't know what kind of movie it wants to be. Despite the cowboy hats and horses, it ought to have been unclassifiable, sui generis; and yet for all the right reasons (cowboy hats and horses?) everyone naturally thinks of this as a western, which, unfortunately brings up comparisons to great examples of the genre which bear no resemblance whatsoever and takes us down the wrong trail. To the extent that this movie invites comparisons to the greatest
westerns
ever made, the whole project was ill-conceived.
Even so, I wouldn't classify "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" a western any more than I would call "Some Like It Hot" a gangster film. In fact, we should be looking at "Some Like It Hot" and other comic chase movies for comparisons to "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid," and not "The Wild Bunch" or "High Noon" or "The Searchers." -
ajprice-1 — 11 years ago(February 20, 2015 06:24 PM)
I am so with you on this. I just went through and read all the Rex Reed-wannabes and their negative comments. I'm usually very polite on these boards, but I cannot abide a slight to the movie I'd choose to have if I were shipwrecked on an desert island (with a generator and DVD player, if no WiFi.) The dialogue is snappy, the acting is superb from the leads to the supporting players, the production is innovative, and NOBODY IS EXPECTED TO THINK IT IS A SERIOUS WESTERN!!!!! It's in a class by itself.
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salvador_1980 — 10 years ago(July 22, 2015 06:07 PM)
It's a serious western but, it's not on the nose. It's about two men "out of time" who refuse to accept the reality that the world is changing around them. They're always looking for the horizon and adventure heck, by the end of the film i doubt they even need the money, they're just stuck in one way of livin'
The ending really seals the deal as, it is uncompromising and also puts a bow on their naivete about what is going on around them, quite literally, in the finales case.
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nitestar95 — 9 years ago(May 06, 2016 03:28 AM)
About 7.5 is right. Way too many people give 9 or 10 stars for anything they like at all. As much as I enjoyed this film, it's not even close to something like 'High Noon', which only got an 8 itself. Today, every piece of crap with lots of CGI gets a 9 or 10 by the kiddies watching it.
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wlp325 — 9 years ago(June 24, 2016 04:10 AM)
Today, every piece of crap with lots of CGI gets a 9 or 10 by the kiddies watching it.
True, but doesn't IMDb take that into account when they produce a movie's (10 to 1 scale) score? From their methodology section:
Various filters are applied to the raw data in order to eliminate and reduce attempts at vote stuffing by people more interested in changing the current rating of a movie than giving their true opinion of it.
Rest in peace, Roger Ebert. You were the best. -
AtoZ2014 — 9 years ago(July 03, 2016 03:16 PM)
Data:
8, 9, 10: 73.3% of 150,664 users
4,5,6,7: 25.3% of voters
1,2,3: 1.5% of voters
17.4% of voters gave it a 10.
Ranked # 184 in the Top 250 Movies
Other movies rated 8.1:
The Big Lebowski
The Deer Hunter
Fargo
Cool Hand Luke
Finding Nemo
The Thing (1982)
No Country for Old Men
It Happened One Night
Nights of Cabiria
The Maltese Falcon
Spotlight
The Wages of Fear
Network
Mad Max: Fury Road
Stand By Me
The 400 Blows
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crypticanomaly73 — 9 years ago(January 09, 2017 12:18 AM)
It's currently 8.1, I like the film too but I found it hard to see what all the hype was about.
The hokey bike riding scene, the long montage as they travel from NY to Bolivia.
Not knowing the dates or years that anything was happening, no what happened to Etta at the end, not knowing how long the cruise was. Just little things like that brought it down for me.
I would say it is a 7/10.
Sometimes a movie or tv show plot is so stupid that only the stupid can understand it.