How is Cromwell regarded in Britain today?
-
gnolti — 18 years ago(February 08, 2008 06:48 AM)
He also has a statue in the lovely burg of Maldon.
Cromwell is one of the less interesting Puritans (yes, I think the Puritans were more interesting than they are given credit for). The Americans produced more wicked personalities, e.g. Jonathan Edwards, John Winthrop, anyone associated with the Salem Witch Trials, etc. -
IcedLemonSquash — 18 years ago(February 26, 2008 11:00 PM)
by grant_sheehan100
Charles showed he could be a good political leader and his eleven year rule was very harmonious. By 1630 he had made peace with both Spain and France. Charles was ahead of his time when it came to religion. He took the advice of his father James and tried to steer a middle course between protestantism and catholicism whichalienated both groups and bigoted individuals such as Cromwell could not compromise on issues such as religion. Parliament was just as much to blame for the civil war as Charles. When it came to foreign policy they were happy to support the war between Charles and Spain but were not prepared to pay for it and givehim the subsidies that were his by right. In my view Cromwell executed an able king who could have been counselled to make better decisions by his more moderate ministers such as Edward Hyde. During Charles' personal rule he increased poor relief tremendously and sought to reduce unemployment. Parliament were stubbornly arrogant and too hasty to act on an irish rebellion that falsely claimed to be acting in the name of the king.
Sorry but everything I (American btw) have ever read about Charles I makes him seem stubborn and willful, believing way too much in the Divine Right of Kings.
I'd might have more to say if it was 2AM and if I hadn't been up for 18 hours today. -
jamdonahoo — 16 years ago(April 16, 2009 10:32 AM)
After the Restoration(Charles II) Cromwell's body was exhumed and "tried".
His severed head was recovered and is now buried at Cambridge. Across from Cromwell's statue on a church is the likeness of Charles I glaring at him. -
TudorLady — 16 years ago(April 20, 2009 05:12 PM)
Alba gu brath! I'm a Scot, descended from the Gaels and the Picts, mother from the highlands, father from the borders. (Tudor Lady cos Tudor history is fascinating!) I'm also fascinated by the civil war. Charles I was a numpty(good Scots word!) who tried to bring the Scottish kirk into line with the Church of England in a very high-handed way. That's why there was an uproar in St Giles Cathedral in Edinburgh when they tried to introduce the English prayer book. We Scots do not take kindly to being told what to do! Unfortunately that included the Stewarts or we might have had our own king!
-
bradford-1 — 15 years ago(February 01, 2011 02:13 PM)
Knowing virtually nothing about the English Civil War, I bought CROMWELL because I hoped there'd be some decent battle scenes. This thread has made more interested in the wars, the Protectorate and the Restoration.
BTW, what was going on in Wales at this time?
"We're fighting for this woman's honor, which is more than she ever did." -
TudorLady — 15 years ago(February 05, 2011 02:19 AM)
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/STUwalesCW.htm
This guy knows his stuff. (Sorry don't know how to make link clickable)
The King's Good Servant but God's first -
Petronius Arbiter II — 15 years ago(February 08, 2011 01:59 PM)
Easily done:
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/STUwalesCW.htm
"I don't deduce, I observe." -
deeveed — 14 years ago(May 31, 2011 06:23 AM)
I watched Cromwell recently. Pretty good historical film. But I think in order to counterbalance the Cromwellian presentation a second part should be added and that would be his life after after Charles was executed. Then obviously we might see a different man with his many sides. He's a man who goes down two tracks. Just because one believes in the palliamentary democracy doesn't preclude him from doing things abhorrent to the concept.
And it was interesting to learn that in the Civil War you can kill a king but you'll pay for it. I think almost every man who signed Charles' death warrant did not have an easy death. They were hunted down like dogs. -
vonmazur — 14 years ago(July 27, 2011 07:30 PM)
Goffe, Whaley and Dixwell had to hide in Connecticut!! All they got for their troubles was 3 streets named after them, and burial in the three churches on the Green in New Haven
Dale
"If those sweethearts won't face German bulletsThey'll face French ones!" -
-
deeveed — 14 years ago(March 19, 2012 08:52 AM)
on the other he did chop a kings head off (something that needs to be done occasionally)
Surely yes. If I was Cromwell, I'd have a hard time checking myself too in keeping the sword in my scabbard..;-)Charles was supposed to be a "king" but the porr fellow wasn't a "lovable" king. It would have been nice if those who advised him helped him better in how to carry on "realtinships". Charles unfortunately just mucked things up as he went along in his rule of hard power politics. Cromwell I'd think was forced to play the same way.