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    karpizan — 19 years ago(February 20, 2007 01:13 PM)

    Not sure about the anti-Catholic bias in the film but the Big O (and much of the population) wasn't exactly known for his Papist sympathies so it would be natural for it to reflect that.
    All in all, I think it did a pretty good job of showing Cromwell up for the beep he actually was.

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      dil337 — 18 years ago(April 20, 2007 09:08 PM)

      Really? My teacher said because the film was British, they glorified him. I thought they tried to, but in the end I naturally had sympathy for Charles.
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        Koncorde — 18 years ago(May 01, 2007 02:58 PM)

        Your teacher clearly has his bum up his own head then.
        Lets get this straight: Cromwell was a Protestant, a proud Protestant who believed everything about Catholicism was unholy and divisive of the people from their God.then wonder why the movie is anti-Catholic? Wow, that's some bold stretch of the imagination going on there.
        You are meant to have sympathy for Charles, just as you are meant to come to the realisation that Cromwell - in order to make bold changes that laid the foundation for democracy - had to first become a dictator far more than Charlie boy ever was. The fact that Charles 'crimes' aren't focused on too much does somewhat undermine Cromwells arguments against him also.
        The movie is, ultimately, pro sacrifice and pro-self determination - and very little 'anti' anything.

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          ohoward-1 — 18 years ago(May 22, 2007 02:44 AM)

          Anti-Catholic? This is almost akin to saying 'Saving Private Ryan' is anti-Nazi

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                chrismahon2005 — 18 years ago(June 21, 2007 04:30 PM)

                Hi there mate,what coutry ae you from?,if your not english that may be the reason.I love this film,i find that part of english history interesting,but can see why some dont.

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                  dil337 — 18 years ago(July 06, 2007 01:34 AM)

                  God you guys are a bunch of british people, aren't you? He just MUST have his head up his ass because it isn't 100% pro british. Pfft.
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                    Alex_H_86 — 18 years ago(August 02, 2007 06:54 AM)

                    Oliver Cromwell is one of my heroes and I am most certainly not English/British. Long live the prodestant church.
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                      wwestar — 18 years ago(January 15, 2008 03:03 PM)

                      Cromwell was more English than British. Britain did not exist during Cromwells time. The American revolution stemmed from people who were pro cromwell and let's not forget that the film was Produced and Financed by Americans, someone in the USA really did dig this guy.

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                        michael-heathcote3 — 16 years ago(August 10, 2009 06:09 AM)

                        'Someone in the USA really did dig this guy'
                        Yeah so did someone in Ireland, no they really did.

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                          Sonatine97 — 18 years ago(February 07, 2008 05:43 AM)

                          To be honest I don't think its the norm for a teacher to be spouting such subjectivity to a class of people trying to learn a piece of history.
                          Teachers are suppose to teach facts and be as objective as possible and let the student think & decide for himself whether Cromwell was pro/anti anything

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                            lonelyrollingstar — 18 years ago(October 18, 2007 03:50 PM)

                            I loved this movie! I think it's one of the best movies ever made. I am watching it right now, and seriously thinking of buying it. Like every historical film, it has its drawbacks and dry momentsbut what makes the film so great is that it brings to attention the life of a figure whose importance is often downplayed, especially in American classes.
                            Oliver Cromwell and Charles I are both very intriguing characters in British history, and I know at least Crommie had some involvement with the United States, so it was interesting in the least to learn about this figure. And the historical inaccuracies will only encourage people to learn about the real man, not the one played so ingeniously by Richard Harris. I loved Alec Guinness's performance too.
                            Of course, it wasn't as action-packed as Dawn of the Dead (awesome film, by the way, and another one of the best movies ever made), but I still love it and hope to soon add it to my collection. 🙂
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                              dil337 — 18 years ago(November 09, 2007 10:22 PM)

                              Okay. Screw it. I just had to go through a Man for All Seasons, and now I'm convinced that that film was far duller. I'd rather watch Cromwell twice before that movie once.
                              Lolz

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                                chrismahon2005 — 18 years ago(December 10, 2007 05:47 PM)

                                Go back to american pie then mate that sounds more your level

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                                  karpizan — 18 years ago(January 07, 2008 07:08 AM)

                                  Nah, he's not that sophisticated.

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