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    garth8769 — 19 years ago(May 20, 2006 01:28 PM)

    surprisingly imdb does not report that the show became "mcmillan" in its 6th and final season. the whole sally/baby thing was handled clumsily ,and having them killed in a plane crash did not fit the tone of the series. i think it would have been better to have mac retire as police commisioner and become a private eye, with the absence of st. james explained by saying she decided to become a stay at home mom and not get involved in mac's investigations. as a PI he could have traveled around on cases and not always be in SF.

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      KrazeeforKittiez — 11 years ago(February 14, 2015 11:51 AM)

      surprisingly imdb does not report that the show became "mcmillan" in its 6th and final season
      Yes they did. Or maybe they added it after your post.
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        darkbhudda — 19 years ago(March 11, 2007 06:50 AM)

        Yes, instead we'd be saying how bad the series became after the the baby grew up into a precocious but oh so lovable little kid. Puke.

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          bookwormdreamer — 17 years ago(October 04, 2008 10:38 AM)

          I don't know why they even wrote a baby into the show they never did show the baby and after a while never talked about a baby either.

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            DeadnotSleeping — 17 years ago(February 05, 2009 11:13 AM)

            Susan Saint James was pregnant in real life so they decided to write the pregnancy into the shows. Chances are, they ran a focus group to see if people liked the idea of Sally and Mac with a child, and the answer was no. Or, the network decided they didn't want the to have kids after all.
            I loved the first four seasons of the show, but they did more than a few changes to the show that defied explanation - like how she was pregnant at end of the first season, but no baby was even mentioned again (they could have just said she lost it and it would have added some drama tot he second season. Then the fourth season pregnancy that produced a baby boy with no name and is never discussed again after the first episode of the fifth season. OF course that is also the season where they moved house to the suburbs - one that looks exactly the same on the inside as the house in the city, except for an extra door and slightly different decor. I tried to watch the last season, but they botched the handling of Sally's death (it was a 10 second mention by Enright, not even my Mac) and Mac becomes a playboy again. Ugh!
            I guess they either figured that the audience wasn't very bright, or the network and/or the producers didn't care about continuity. It's too bad because it was a really fun show to watch for a few years.

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              gjung01 — 16 years ago(February 16, 2010 07:33 PM)

              I think back then, they figured that the series would rerun during the summer and that would be it. Also, the fact that the writers and producers assumed viewers had a short memory or if you just glossed right over it, people would not notice and be distracted.
              I had read somewhere that Susan Saint James had a contractual dispute with the producers and this may have explained how on certain seasons and episodes, her character does not seem to be as involved with the story line. It was probably acrimonious if they killed off her character, so that there was no way the character of Sally would be able to come back. I thought the appeal of the show was the chemistry between Mac and Sally and their banter.
              TV producers still didn't get it, even back then.

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                nrangerseven — 11 years ago(April 14, 2014 01:45 PM)

                I've been catching McMillan and Wife here and there on Cozi Tv. Just saw that episode where Enright mentions Sally's death. It's the one where Jessica Walter plays McMillan's new girlfriend. Enright says it's been 8 months since Sally died in a plane crash and how he hadn't thought Mac would ever get past it. Seems like he got past it just fine! No mention of a baby either.
                But last week they showed a later episode where he was having an affair with Stefanie Powers. Since I had just seen an episode the day before where Sally was kidnapped I was really confused! They had a bunch of "flashbacks" that showed how loving he was and how scared he was that he'd never get his wife back. Didn't even know she had died on the show! Here I was expecting a big catfight between the two women! haha Then he really does lose his wife (and some mystery baby) and he's suddenly a player againsmh
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                  snsurone — 10 years ago(December 13, 2015 10:23 AM)

                  It was 18 months, not 8.

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                      Sjbradford — 15 years ago(June 23, 2010 08:48 PM)

                      When Sally was killed, they should have kept the baby. They could have retitled the show "McMillan and Baby", and the baby could have helped Mac solve crimes, the same way that Sally used to.

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                        RikerDonegal — 15 years ago(January 17, 2011 04:41 PM)

                        "McMillan and Baby" Brilliant. LOL I love it.
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                          renata77 — 11 years ago(April 16, 2014 11:56 PM)

                          "One Man and a Smart Baby" Haha
                          I'm so grateful for this thread. I kept seeing reruns with Sally pregnant and I kept wondering why I didn't remember anyone saying what had become of the baby. I didn't remember if she was supposed to have miscarried or not.
                          They definitely made a mistake letting Susan Saint James go. Choose your show or choose to be cheap. It was sad to see the show fade away.

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                            peacedovey2003 — 15 years ago(October 27, 2010 11:00 PM)

                            I do remember one of the episodes - it was the first one of the season - Sally suffered a miscarriage and lost the baby. It seemed to me that it was in the opening scene that she was being rushed by ambulance to the emergency room. I do remember that very well. Mac was really concerned about her.

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                              RikerDonegal — 15 years ago(January 17, 2011 04:43 PM)

                              You're thinking of the last episode of the first season. It does indeed open with her being rushed to hospital, but she doesn't suffer a miscarriage. Mac was really concerned alright, that's correct, but they established that mother and baby were 100% fine.
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                                marbleann — 14 years ago(April 02, 2012 12:59 PM)

                                What is really ironic is that one of her sons really died in a plane crash.

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                                  forever_swirl — 11 years ago(July 08, 2014 04:50 PM)

                                  I was just wondering the same thing! I just started watching this show via Netflix and really want to buy the whole series. I just watched the episode where she was pregnant and saw another one from season 3 (on youtube) and there was no mention of a baby at all! I thought, well, they're keeping that kid quiet. The producers could have just hidden the pregnancy, like they do on a million other shows or they could have bitten the bullet and just given them a baby. They'd only have to show him/her a couple of scenes or at least mention him/her once or twice. It's not like they'd have to take the kid out on a case or anything.
                                  Now I'm kind of bummed to learn that Sally dies and Mac's on the make during the last season. Not sure if I want to buy the series now, but I prob will anyway! I like the show - just like I'm growing to love "hart to hart".

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                                    Sjbradford — 11 years ago(January 23, 2015 07:20 PM)

                                    Now I'm kind of bummed to learn that Sally dies and Mac's on the make during the last season. Not sure if I want to buy the series now, but I prob will anyway! I like the show - just like I'm growing to love "hart to hart".
                                    Oh, better avoid the last season of that show, when Jennifer Hart is killed off and the show is renamed simply "Hart".

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                                      harry-47 — 11 years ago(January 23, 2015 12:33 PM)

                                      I just stopped by this mb to see if there is a thread about this. I am now watching the reruns and they are showing the episodes with Sally being pregnant and I've always wondered (then and now) about Sally's pregnancies. The one that I watched last night had a very pregnant Sally playing tennis with Stephanie Powers' character. Thanks for the explanation.

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                                        KrazeeforKittiez — 11 years ago(February 14, 2015 11:58 AM)

                                        I have been watching reruns and I don't think they are in order. Yep.she is pregnantdon't see a show when she has it but then there is a baby.don't know sex,name or anything. The kid is upstairs all the time and they hardly ever talk about it. Next showno baby so I figured it was not in order.
                                        They handled the baby business very badly. She was really pregnant so they either should have shot scenes before she showed or hide most of her when she did.
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                                          sprodell — 10 years ago(December 03, 2015 11:25 PM)

                                          Agree with everyone: The whole baby issue was very badly handled, especially when the series became simply "McMillan" and Mac was enthusiastically playing the field just 8 months after his wife and child's deaths. The producers should have paid Susan St. James and Nancy Walker the moon to stay with the series, because it just plain sucked after they left. Rock Hudson and St. James had such good chemistry.
                                          Another inconsistency throughout the show(s) was Mac's smoking. First he smoked, then in a number of episodes he said he didn't smoke. And then with "McMillan" he was puffing away like a demon. Ugh.

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